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PostAuthor: tomjez » Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:32 pm

Yeah. I kind of work with them for a few months....as I saw them thursday they seemed to have understood but they were interested to have my advice...It's not their fault, but they should listen, it's so easy to be manipulated...
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PostAuthor: Piling » Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:54 pm

Of course it is very easy to be manipulated, but I've never understood these people who become very angry when you just objet "REAL facts" just because they don't like this reality.

By the way, it was only a contact with one man (he is dead now) I never met any others, so I can't say it is characteristic of the association.
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:57 pm

Politics in North-Kurdistan are so sad. .. maybe I must focus more on South-Kurdistan.. North makes me deppressed.. really. It doesn't look it's getting better.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:10 pm

In Southern Kurdistan, you'll hear people complain about KDP/UPK, lack of democracy and corruption, etc. I do'nt know if it is less sad, probably better, because Kurds are not afraid to criticize their leader, not like in Northern Kurdistan !

I just wonder something. If you believe a Southern Kurdistanî, everybody is unhappy because of KDP/PUK... But at each election, thse parties win at a huge majority... Are elections falsified or... things are not so simple ? (I mean ppl who criticize vote for them all the same)...
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:11 pm

People just don't vote.. so constitution won. At Kurdistan Islamic union won a lot of votes in the elections. (regional ones .. I think)
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Re: PKK "liberated" Kurdish area compared to size

PostAuthor: abdur » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:07 am

Vladimir wrote:The Medya Defense Zones are areas declared as 'liberated' by the HPG. The size of the MDZ is approximately the size of Holland according to estimates made in 2003.

http://www.dozame.org/article.php/20051127063426292

ehmmm who do believe this?

Such a joke, apart from the qandîl and xakurkê mountains they never stay long at the same place. So they must mean these mountains which they "liberated" from the feodal and küçük burjuva southern kurds.
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Re: PKK "liberated" Kurdish area compared to size

PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:08 am

abdur wrote:
Vladimir wrote:The Medya Defense Zones are areas declared as 'liberated' by the HPG. The size of the MDZ is approximately the size of Holland according to estimates made in 2003.

http://www.dozame.org/article.php/20051127063426292

ehmmm who do believe this?

Such a joke, apart from the qandîl and xakurkê mountains they never stay long at the same place. So they must mean these mountains which they "liberated" from the feodal and küçük burjuva southern kurds.


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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:45 am

küçük burjuva.. sounds more Turkish
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PostAuthor: abdur » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:19 am

Yup thats the label they put on Talabani's head, then you *know* already who is called feodal.
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