*** Burn Down Danish Flag in Arbil

[shino]

That was a good match.
Well done Rubar

[piskrt]

Rubar, shino or whatever your name is-

You are the type of kurd which gives a bad name to all kurds. I do not want to be a part of a nation with you. And, I am not kurdish if you are.[/code]

[Diri]

I don't get it...

Why do you say that? And why does your nick say "piskrt" = "Pis Kürt" = "Dirty Kurd"...



Why aren't you a Kurd just because Rubar or Shino is a Kurd?


You are in no way linked to them... Why do you feel treathened by them?

Rubar, Shino and you - you should all learn to accept pluralism and tolerance as the founding stones of Kurdistan... Because there are so many different oppinions in Kurdish society - you can not say that we are all the same...

Rubar is one thing - Shino is another... You Piskrt are different from them - and I am different from all of you...

Just because we all are KURDS - doesn't mean we are the same... Are all Turks the same? Is a MHP member the same as an AKP member? Or a CHP member?

No... So stop talking nonsense...

If being Kurdish means so little to you - that you are willing to give it up only because other Kurds are different from you - I suggest you find a better reason for WHY you are Kurdish...

I sense, that you are not so proud to be Kurdish, piskrt... That is worrying...

[UE_kurdophile]

Rubar, shino or whatever your name is-

You are the type of kurd which gives a bad name to all kurds. I do not want to be a part of a nation with you. And, I am not kurdish if you are.[/code]

What the hell!!! Does it make sense???
I am Italian,there are millions of **** who are Italian,but I am never going to say I am not Italian because of that!! Do you want a Kurdistan with people who are exactly like you and always agree with you ?????
Well,maybe yes,but I am pretty sure Kurds don't want a Kurdistan with 40 millions of ...Piskrt, oh my God!!!

[dyaoko]

I dont think what pisturk claims is right,,,


I remember there was a turk user on an israeli forum that cliamed her mother is kurd but she hates her mother famillies ... and she claimed the same thing that pisturk do , (Even some of her relatives died in PKK )...
and she used to say how she loves Turkey and AtaTurk and...

I followed her posts , well you know the lier doesnt have a good memory ... in another post She or May be "He" said his father is Kurd and she hates her father familles... because they are low culutre...and even some of them died as PKK memebers...

I never found out if her father or mother was kurd... well somebody on that forum said that Turkey gives money to these ppl to do proapgenda for turkey on forums... speicaly israeli forums. [to show a good imagine of turks and say they are not anti-semitic]

[piskrt]

Why do you say that? And why does your nick say "piskrt" = "Pis Kürt" = "Dirty Kurd"...

My nick pikrt. Pis means dirty and krt is the first letters of my name and surnmae. It has nothing to do with kurd or anything near it.

Why aren't you a Kurd just because Rubar or Shino is a Kurd?


You are in no way linked to them... Why do you feel treathened by them?

Well, because whener I raise objection againist them, they startt crying moron, idiot or unkurdish kurds and things like that.

Are all Turks the same? Is a MHP member the same as an AKP member? Or a CHP member?

Yeah that is my point. But, his anti-turkish rhetoric sickens me.

I dont think what pisturk claims is right,,,

Oh no. I am kurdish. And, besides if you do not count people who do not believe in what you said, then do not come up and say there are 20 million kurds in Turkey bla bla bla. Count the people who agrees with you, which does not make much....

[Rubar]

Rubar, shino or whatever your name is-

You are the type of kurd which gives a bad name to all kurds. I do not want to be a part of a nation with you. And, I am not kurdish if you are.[/code]

I recommend some Yoga classes....may be that might help calm you...otherwise...as i said early i refuse to participate in any discussion with you....

[Diri]

People, cut some slak...

Piskrt isn't a bad person or anything... He just has a different oppinion...

He has a closer relationship to some Turks obviously... And doesn't wanna hear bad stuff about them...

I understand that part...

[cheryl]

turkish is not the language of torah, and that must be why you have made the mistaken implication that "Torah has much stricter rules concerning human life."

Oh really. Turkish Jews are praying in Turkish just like many non-muslims. Besides, if you go to a church or synagague you can take a turkish translation without paying a fee.

don't divert the subject. turkish is NOT the language of torah, nor of nevi'im, nor of k'tuvim. and torah is not used for prayer.

you can have as many different translations you want. they are only MERELY interesting. they are not the proper, or kosher, text, and to understand ANY of them, reference must ALWAYS be made back to the original hebrew, which in any DECENT translation, is usually on the facing page.

most people don't even know the proper translation of the ten declarations, because they get them through christian translations, which are NOT accurate. a point ridiculous in itself, because even the ten declarations DO NOT APPLY TO CHRISTIANS.

the only laws applicable to non-jews are the noahide laws, given to noah. the ten declarations are the noahide laws elaborated upon for the jewish nation, given at mt. sinai, and, curiously enough, given in the same format as other legal contracts of the time. . . especially hurrian legal contracts.

therefore, torah is a binding, LEGAL contract between ha'Shem and the people israel. THERE ARE NO OTHER PARTIES BOUND LEGALLY TO THIS CONTRACT.

all other commentary on torah comes in the form of legal commentary, not much different than legal commentary and decisions made by the us supreme court. all new commentary is based on the old commentary, such as talmud, much of which, by the way, was compiled in kurdistan even though this, the authoritative talmud, is called "babylonian" talmud. i guess this is why much reference is made in talmud to a people called "qardu'im."

Rubar writes:

Good point. Thats why we don't see some radical jewish organisation declaring fathwas (or the Hebrew equivalent) against anyone.

HA! no rabbi (judge of jewish law) can even make a JEW obey the law. the last person that i can think of who was declared "xerem" was spinoza. even if a rabbi or rabbis declared someone xerem now, it would be almost meaningless because almost no jew would obey it.

believe me, the rabbis would just be happy if WE would obey the laws we're supposed to obey.

[Rubar]

turkish is not the language of torah, and that must be why you have made the mistaken implication that "Torah has much stricter rules concerning human life."

Oh really. Turkish Jews are praying in Turkish just like many non-muslims. Besides, if you go to a church or synagague you can take a turkish translation without paying a fee.

don't divert the subject. turkish is NOT the language of torah, nor of nevi'im, nor of k'tuvim. and torah is not used for prayer.

you can have as many different translations you want. they are only MERELY interesting. they are not the proper, or kosher, text, and to understand ANY of them, reference must ALWAYS be made back to the original hebrew, which in any DECENT translation, is usually on the facing page.

most people don't even know the proper translation of the ten declarations, because they get them through christian translations, which are NOT accurate. a point ridiculous in itself, because even the ten declarations DO NOT APPLY TO CHRISTIANS.

the only laws applicable to non-jews are the noahide laws, given to noah. the ten declarations are the noahide laws elaborated upon for the jewish nation, given at mt. sinai, and, curiously enough, given in the same format as other legal contracts of the time. . . especially hurrian legal contracts.

therefore, torah is a binding, LEGAL contract between ha'Shem and the people israel. THERE ARE NO OTHER PARTIES BOUND LEGALLY TO THIS CONTRACT.

all other commentary on torah comes in the form of legal commentary, not much different than legal commentary and decisions made by the us supreme court. all new commentary is based on the old commentary, such as talmud, much of which, by the way, was compiled in kurdistan even though this, the authoritative talmud, is called "babylonian" talmud. i guess this is why much reference is made in talmud to a people called "qardu'im."

Rubar writes:

Good point. Thats why we don't see some radical jewish organisation declaring fathwas (or the Hebrew equivalent) against anyone.

HA! no rabbi (judge of jewish law) can even make a JEW obey the law. the last person that i can think of who was declared "xerem" was spinoza. even if a rabbi or rabbis declared someone xerem now, it would be almost meaningless because almost no jew would obey it.

believe me, the rabbis would just be happy if WE would obey the laws we're supposed to obey.

THank you for your clarification Cheryl. At last we have a real jew that actually knows judaism, rather than a Turkish fascists pretending to be a jew.