Kurdish group takes credit for Istanbul cafe blast

[Diri]

Many are afraid to vote for Kurds...

Many don't vote at all...

Many are sick of fighting - so they vote for islamic parties...

And there are tons of other reasons...

[Tirigan]

Well if you can give them independance WITHOUT apo, I would be grateful, I'd like to travel to Kurdistan freely without secret services of a crazy communist dictatorship on my ass all the time.

Yeah you’re right. But APO became a symbol for our national struggle against the Turks after WWI, WWII and Ataturk. APO let the world know that there were/are such people as Kurds in North-Kurdistan. APO putted us, Kurds, on the political map again. Before APO everybody thought that Kurds were assimilated and we vanished, like Armenians in Turkey.

[Tirigan]

World community gave the Turks 75-100 years the time to assimilate Kurds. Turks didn’t succeeded. And there’s no such thing as USSR. So thanks GOD, political role of the Turks on the world stage is over. Europeans will never give any time to Turks again to assimilate Kurds. That’s why I think it’s finito with Turkish state.

[tomjez]

If Dehap doesn't have the majority of kurdish voices, it's because kurds know DEHAP is PKK, and they don't trust it anymore.

Anyway now it is "DTP", pretty hard to follow...

[heval]

It's on his homepage.. and some parts are contested Tomjez..

And Heval M. Izady.. are you sure he is to be trusted?

The second article that I posted is by Dr. Amir Hasanpour. If you wish to, you can browse the Kurdish Academy website and read other articles then judge for yourself. You must determine for yourself what is objective and what is subjective in the writings of both Izady and Hasanpour. However, even the European scholars who question Zaza identity as being Kurdish will agree that Zaza has a direct relation to Gurani and Hewrami. Everyone will agree that the dialects are of the same language. And... as a Hewrami Kurd, I have no doubts in my mind of my Kurdish identity. Kurds are a mixed race as we have talked about before, and I actually think that questioning Gurani identity is rather silly because of the fact that both modern Kurmanci and Gurani speaking Kurds share the same ancestry from Indo-Iranian and Caucus tribes.

[Vladimir]

Spastikum Heval!

[heval]

Spastikum Heval!

Ser Çaw birakim

[Piling]

If Dehap doesn't have the majority of kurdish voices, it's because kurds know DEHAP is PKK, and they don't trust it anymore.

And because the PKK decided that the DEHAP should make an alliance with Turkish nationalist party. Kurds are not crazy, the HADEP was their party, but the DEHAP leaders were puppets.

[zurderer]

Many are afraid to vote for Kurds...

Many don't vote at all...

Many are sick of fighting - so they vote for islamic parties...

And there are tons of other reasons...

you mean at istanbul? Hadep get more vote at istanbul than diyarbakır, noone afraid to vote, also should remind infact some kurds forced by PKK.

I agree there are tons of other reason, but It looks like kurdish people dont show much interest to ethnic parties.

And because the PKK decided that the DEHAP should make an alliance with Turkish nationalist party. Kurds are not crazy, the HADEP was their party, but the DEHAP leaders were puppets....

dehap vote is more than hadep, so kurds are crazy? Infact It looks like my friends, majority of kurds are not with you.

less than 50% of kurds dont interest with hadep.(I am not sure about kurdish population, but 2.000.000 vote present 4-5 million citizen, I am sure you wont accept my idea about turkey having 10-15 million kurd.

[tomjez]

There is no HADEP anymore, not since 2002...

And yeah probaly 15-20 millions kurds in turkey, what's the problem with this idea

and DEHAP vote was a catastrophe in 2004 elections, they lost a lot of cities to AKP, I posted about that before.

t looks like kurdish people dont show much interest to ethnic parties.

On the contrary they started getting tired of DEHAP when it pretended being a party for "all turks", making alliances with useless turkish parties and not even running under its own name in 2004, all following Öcalan's order.

[zurderer]

Last election is a municipality elections, you are comparing it wrong election. AKP was successful, because she has control of central goverment.

Infact If we compared last election, at 1999 Hadep got 4.75% with 1.482.194.

at 2002. Dehap got 6,14% with 1.933.680 vote.

And yeah probaly 15-20 millions kurds in turkey, what's the problem with this idea

No I have not, problem is that. 20 million kurds mean, 28% ot total Turkey population is kurd.

But at election, they get maximum(this is also more than hadep get) 6.14

Basic Math: If we divide 6.14 to 28. we find 22% so only, 22 of Kurds interest with ethnic division, and lets remember more than 50 vote Dehap got is from turkish lands. So I think not all of them want a independent kurdistan, after all they would not live at this kurdistan.

So our politicians are right? There are not a kurdish problem but PKK problem?

Or I think we have less kurds, like 10 million.

[Vladimir]

Off course. There is no problem!

[zurderer]

Off course. There is no problem!

Infact there is nothing named as kurdish problem, but turkish problem.

Turkish people are too much turk. They should not give so much importance to becoming turk.

but It looks like kurdish people also dont want independent, at least large part of them dont.

[Piling]

Kurds want to live, without fear and without persecution. That's all.

[Diri]

Off course. There is no problem!

Infact there is nothing named as kurdish problem, but turkish problem.

Turkish people are too much turk. They should not give so much importance to becoming turk.

but It looks like kurdish people also dont want independent, at least large part of them dont.

You have no sources for saying that... KURDS want independence... TURDS don't want independence...