Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

[Qonyeyi]

Don't get me wrong I support pyd who protect Kurds in ollepo, but wouldn't it be wiser if
Kurds just migrated north and pyd take all their peshmerga their they are surrounded by Arabs in ollepo not safe.

Thats a reasonable suggestion. Though, I do not believe Kurds in Aleppo would do that. They have been living there for hundreds of years. Heleb is mentioned in many old time Kurdish litterature. It would be like suggestioning to Central Anatolian Kurds to return to NK. Probably not going to happen. Therefore it is vital that Kurds in Aleppo also get organized and get defense force so that they can defend themselves while rebuilding their state despite the fact that they might not be close to the rest of WK.

[Bahoz]

purearch do you think arabs will leave kurds if they migrate north? do you know that kurdish area and land extend to Aleppo? I am personally from villege that is 20 km far from Aleppo and it is kurdish villege! are you aware of how kurds extended in west? are you aware that many kurds already left Aleppo to Efrin and other cities! but not all kurds can do that! do you know that there is around 500,000 kurds in Aleppo concentrated in that two area (Eshrafiya and Shex Maqsood) and they own business and lands and houses! do you think it would be easy to migrate?

comeon where to go? arabs are after us everywhere! and turks are waiting for us in the other side! for God sake! don't you see how many kurds already left West to south and other countries! do you know that Turkey and arabs are encouraging kurds to leave their areas so that they will take over! ...

migration will not solve the problems! when you become strong and haveground the enemies will think twice before they come close to you! ..

[purearch72]

I assumed they were just Kurds who went to for example Tehran or something, but I'm wrong. Seeing as you are a Kurd from Syria what is your view on pyd and knc?

[Bahoz]

http://www.jawadmella.net/id13.html

look at the map! this map is not over estimated! it is true picture of west kurdistan! arabs claim have of the land!

as for PYD and KNC. I am very disappointed of how kurds work and how kurdish politicians work! .... KNC consist of 15 parties have different views! .. they don't have one voice! they have less supporters and little ground! not because of anything but because they don't have clear program! ....they are not close to the people...in conclusion I call them loosers that had chance to be leaders! ... they like to wear ties and suits they like to shine and drink nice wines ..except few good people there! Meshel Tamo was good one ..

PYD consist of former PKK people in west! .. they are well organized ..follow strict rules and laws..they have goals and strategy.. they have most of the ground and people! because they are close to people they don't lie, they don't cheat, they don't steal, they don't drink and sell and buy words..

both PYD and KNC has different path for west. PYD wants kurds to stay neutral and not be part of opposition or regime because they know they kurds are enemies of both anyway so the best plan would be to stay neutral and wait until either win. in the mean time while watching arabs killing each other lets get ready for worse by creating strong forces and economy and educate people and change kurdish area into true kurdish area.
KNC wants be part of the fight against regime! they want more involvment in the opposition! they think they will get better deal if they work more with opposition! ...

what is the problem? lack of cooperation between PYD and KNC...
which one is right? I personally don't want be part of the opposition and the regime! they can kill each other until both get tired! why we kurds should be involved! it is like you were asking kurds in south to help sunna or shia! ..why would they do that? we don't get any benefits! ...instead lets get ready for worse.

[hevalo27]

KNC wants be part of the fight against regime! they want more involvment in the opposition! they think they will get better deal if they work more with opposition! ...

lol, i am afraid about their view/mind. they will bring us much anger

[RawandKurdistani]

http://www.jawadmella.net/id13.html

look at the map! this map is not over estimated! it is true picture of west kurdistan! arabs claim have of the land!

as for PYD and KNC. I am very disappointed of how kurds work and how kurdish politicians work! .... KNC consist of 15 parties have different views! .. they don't have one voice! they have less supporters and little ground! not because of anything but because they don't have clear program! ....they are not close to the people...in conclusion I call them loosers that had chance to be leaders! ... they like to wear ties and suits they like to shine and drink nice wines ..except few good people there! Meshel Tamo was good one ..

PYD consist of former PKK people in west! .. they are well organized ..follow strict rules and laws..they have goals and strategy.. they have most of the ground and people! because they are close to people they don't lie, they don't cheat, they don't steal, they don't drink and sell and buy words..

both PYD and KNC has different path for west. PYD wants kurds to stay neutral and not be part of opposition or regime because they know they kurds are enemies of both anyway so the best plan would be to stay neutral and wait until either win. in the mean time while watching arabs killing each other lets get ready for worse by creating strong forces and economy and educate people and change kurdish area into true kurdish area.
KNC wants be part of the fight against regime! they want more involvment in the opposition! they think they will get better deal if they work more with opposition! ...

what is the problem? lack of cooperation between PYD and KNC...
which one is right? I personally don't want be part of the opposition and the regime! they can kill each other until both get tired! why we kurds should be involved! it is like you were asking kurds in south to help sunna or shia! ..why would they do that? we don't get any benefits! ...instead lets get ready for worse.

That map is claiming half of Aleppo (Or how it's spelled) As a part of west Kurdistan, just sayin And i agree, kurds should'nt get involved in the fight. Let the syrians rape eachother to death But please stop insulting the KNC, they are the only ones that will ever recieve support from the west, we really need them.

[purearch72]

Great to see the view of a Syrian kurd tired of N.Kurds speaking on behalf of you guys.

[Kawe]

Great to see the view of a Syrian kurd tired of N.Kurds speaking on behalf of you guys.

I don't understand, is there a difference between a Kurd from N.K and one from W.K? I as a Kurd from Rojhelat have as much of a say in what happens in W.K as the Kurds there do, because it is my land as well. I only stated that I am from Rojhelat to make things simpler, I certainly don't care as to what side of the border I happened to be born on.

Stop distinguishing between Kurds, you make it seem like there is some sort of difference between us. I understand you are very proud, but you are not helping your nation by differentiating between Kurds. I am not trying to offend you, so do not take this as an insult.

[purearch72]

Great to see the view of a Syrian kurd tired of N.Kurds speaking on behalf of you guys.

I don't understand, is there a difference between a Kurd from N.K and one from W.K? I as a Kurd from Rojhelat have as much of a say in what happens in W.K as the Kurds there do, because it is my land as well. I only stated that I am from Rojhelat to make things simpler, I certainly don't care as to what side of the border I happened to be born on.

Stop distinguishing between Kurds, you make it seem like there is some sort of difference between us. I understand you are very proud, but you are not helping your nation by differentiating between Kurds. I am not trying to offend you, so do not take this as an insult.

Not seperating them usually when a conflict goes on you can't really judge things on news, you need inside sources. It's like me telling N.Kurdistan kurds that they are doing the wrong thing by burning down schools - as stated by propoganda. So, when I ask someone from Turkey if this is true he says no, this is the real side of the story, this is what I mean. When I saw stories of PYD in syria I wanted to hear from an actual syrian kurds. I find that you overthink my statements.

[Kawe]

Great to see the view of a Syrian kurd tired of N.Kurds speaking on behalf of you guys.

I don't understand, is there a difference between a Kurd from N.K and one from W.K? I as a Kurd from Rojhelat have as much of a say in what happens in W.K as the Kurds there do, because it is my land as well. I only stated that I am from Rojhelat to make things simpler, I certainly don't care as to what side of the border I happened to be born on.

Stop distinguishing between Kurds, you make it seem like there is some sort of difference between us. I understand you are very proud, but you are not helping your nation by differentiating between Kurds. I am not trying to offend you, so do not take this as an insult.

Not seperating them usually when a conflict goes on you can't really judge things on news, you need inside sources. It's like me telling N.Kurdistan kurds that they are doing the wrong thing by burning down schools - as stated by propoganda. So, when I ask someone from Turkey if this is true he says no, this is the real side of the story, this is what I mean. When I saw stories of PYD in syria I wanted to hear from an actual syrian kurds. I find that you overthink my statements.

I understand. You're right, I did over think it

[Bahoz]

Kurdish fellows,
things are getting worse back in west, this is what Turks were planning for! FSA started attacking YPG points and villeges also. Today they attacked another village and more points! I expect this will spread! it started with Efrin and soon you will see same kind of actions in Qamishlo, Heschica and other cities! this is part of big turkish plan to shut kurdish people and close door on kurdish freedom!... it is so shameful to see that KNC didn't even say what they think of whats happening! instead they are protesting because some people removed syrian flag from their centers. what a shame! what a shame... today we need to be all one hand and together and closer...mexabin u 1000 mexabin ..

[RawandKurdistani]

ALEPPO, — A Kurdish man tortured by rebels in northern Syria has died of his wounds on Monday, a watchdog said, noting that some armed groups have taken up methods used by the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

Khaled Bahjat Hamdu, 37, was captured on Friday along with scores of other Kurds in the northern Syrian province of Aleppo (western Kurdistan), near the village of Hayan, said the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported.

Hamdu "died from wounds caused by torture inflicted on him while he was captured by an armed group near the village of Hayan," it said.

"He was tortured using electricity. He was one of 120 captives released on Sunday, but he was so weak that the following morning, he died," said Observatory director Rami Abdel Rahman.

"Some of the armed groups are using the regime's methods of repression," said Abdel Rahman. "We should not be silent about this."

Syrian rebels clashed with Kurdish militia in Aleppo on Friday, leaving 30 dead whole more than 200 were captured, the Observatory said.

The Observatory relies on a countrywide network of activists and medics in civilian and military hospitals. It says its tolls take into account civilian, military,www.ekurd.net and rebel casualties.

Abdel Rahman said the area northwest of Aleppo is home to some 600,000 Kurds, and that there are fears that communal tensions may grow in areas near the Turkish border.

Over 3 million Kurds live in Syrian Kurdistan (western Kurdistan), mainly in the north bordering Turkey and Iraqi Kurdistan region. Syrian Kurds have long sought official recognition of the Kurdish language and their culture in Syria.

"In areas where rebels have forced the regime out, there is a security vacuum. Some of the fighters don't want democracy at all, they're just warlords who are taking advantage of the chaos," said Abdel Rahman.

The head of a UN commission investigating rights abuses in Syria said in September that both sides to the conflict were to blame for gross violations of human rights.

"Gross violations of human rights have grown in number, in pace and in scale," Paulo Sergio Pinheiro said in mid-September, adding that President Bashar al-Assad's regime -- and the rebels, to a lesser extent -- had committed war crimes.

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[Bahoz]

he was tortured because he was kurd... this is how arabs treats us!..killing, torturing... this is their culture!..

[Kurdistano]

its time to arm the civilians so they can protect themselves.

[purearch72]

its time to arm the civilians so they can protect themselves.

When there is 10,000 peshmerga waiting in S.kurdistan why do we need civilians to fight?