"Turkiye": the reality...

[piskrt]

The police have violated their own authority and committed acts, which the international community will recognize as inhumane, unjust, and even barbaric. So you can defend it all you, but like I said before, facts are facts and they will reveal the truth.

You are the unfamiliar one. If police had such an intention, it would have killed dozens not just 2 of them. Besides, police was attacked by petrol bombs and many weapons but your "credible" sources would not talk about them.

International community? Which one? US maybe. The one which killed dozens in such incidents in Iraq and in its own territory. Go and read what happens when blacks riot? and then come and talk about international community.

[heval]

The police have violated their own authority and committed acts, which the international community will recognize as inhumane, unjust, and even barbaric. So you can defend it all you, but like I said before, facts are facts and they will reveal the truth.

You are the unfamiliar one. If police had such an intention, it would have killed dozens not just 2 of them. Besides, police was attacked by petrol bombs and many weapons but your "credible" sources would not talk about them.

International community? Which one? US maybe. The one which killed dozens in such incidents in Iraq and in its own territory. Go and read what happens when blacks riot? and then come and talk about international community.

It does not matter what their intentions are. The bottom line is they did it... and whether you and your buddy, Zurderer, want to call it an accident or not, they committed a murder.

International community as in every entity that recognizes human rights abuses, including human rights organizations themselves. You sound like Chemical Ali in the 1980s when he said that he didn't care about what the international community will think when he gasses the Kurds.

[zurderer]

It does not matter what their intentions are.

It is, without intention you cannot commit murder.


Still what is a child doing inside of riot? will you put your child inside of a riot, or hide it at your home?

[heval]

It does not matter what their intentions are.

It is, without intention you cannot commit murder.


Still what is a child doing inside of riot? will you put your child inside of a riot, or hide it at your home?

Murder is murder. You say "hide *it* at your home"? I'm sorry but I do not consider a child, an "it".

[piskrt]

In order to commit a crime you should have the intention to do that. If you do not kill someone with a clear intention, you are not tried for murder but a different crime.

Besides, tell me what you understand from international community? Where is the int community when people in all over the world starve? Where is the int communiry when China, Indıa, Pakistan, Philippines etc. suppresse people or religious minorities? International community means US and it has its own agenda. and to the Chemical Ali, I do not support what he has done. Never! But, it is clear that, his crime came to world stage after Saddam and US broke their ties between each other, not before. If they could get along with each other, maybe even now, so-called int. community would not give a shit what happened to kurds or iranians!

[heval]

Anyways, enough with that argument. Back to "Turkiye": the reality...


There is a video of what is going on in Northern Kurdistan at the following link.
Click on the image that says "Li videoyê temase ke":

http://www.netkurd.org/nuce.asp?id=1312

[zurderer]

An accident is an accident not murder. what you said is against all type of world, without intention a murder cannot be.


About "It"

you are beginning to play with words. My english is not enough good, when I write quicly I make a lot mistake. But This only show my english is bad, and your english is better. Not you are right, neither this has some relation with topic.

[Diri]

Let's see the actions of the just and lawful Turkish police:


Catapults? Shooting with catapults?

Let's look at who the "terrorists" are:







And what is this? Ordinary Kurdish civilians...


Now the "Turkish police" wasn't enough for Turkey... They sent in some other bastards too:









In other news - when Kurds marched in Elîh yesterday - to protest the murder of 14 HPG Pêshmerges:





Here you can see the faces of those who died for Kurdistan:

List of HPG shehîds with photos[/quote]

[Vladimir]

Let's see the actions of the just and lawful Turkish police:


Catapults? Shooting with catapults?

It's better then with guns. And demonstrators throw rocks to them so..

Btw, there were also several buildings on fire.

[Diri]

THIS HAPPENED:






WHEN THEY DID THIS:

[tomjez]

dude dying for Apo is not dying for Kurdistan....

[Diri]

dude dying for Apo is not dying for Kurdistan....

DON'T HIJACK THE DAMN THREAD - GO START YOUR OWN THREAD ABOUT APO... THIS IS ABOUT KURDISTAN!

[Piling]

But Dîrî, rioters burnt and plundered shops in Diyarbakir because their owners did refuse to close them durgin the funerals. Were they not Kurdish shops, though ?

[tomjez]

Dir I'm sad and angry as well, but being neutral I don't blame only one side. I'm really really disgusted by the situation, and I blame PKK for creating it, Turkish police for giving arguments to hard liners in kurdish society. Period.

Rio = anti Riot, in every fucking country in this world. Turkey, France, US, Luxembourg, wherever. 3 deads for such massive revolts. 15 years ago it was 100 in cizre. PKK wants a new cizre, that's all.

[piskrt]

Now the "Turkish police" wasn't enough for Turkey... They sent in some other bastards too:

The "real" basards are people who terrorize ordinary people. The one you are supporting are mobs who are worshipping the PKK and APO not something else. Besides, they are not weaponless nor innocent. Furthermore, they use children and women as a cover, so if you will blame someone for the death of that child, blame his father and PKK who sent him to death.