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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:44 pm

what do this turkmen wants they already have a turkey and a turkmenistan



here is a ethnic map of iraq

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by the way assyrians now mostly live in the big cities of iraq becuase of that they arent much in the northen area villages along the tigris river.



ah and to zakhu you saw the dalal bridge that have benn build by an assyrian we have a song to it :D

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:48 pm

This is how I saw it too. I'm relieved, you're not a crazy New Assyrian Empire advocate ;)
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:49 pm

Nice Bridge anyway! Really Impressive
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:57 pm

Are the purple spots, the ones that should be bombed by airplanes?
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: heval » Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:20 pm

Rumtaya wrote:lol its assyrian heartland not the assyrian empire i mean.

at less it belongs to assyrian and if we want an assyria it should be the dark green area cause there do live assyrians. and if saddam didnt destoried the village there would have benn allot of assyrians.

The rest of what is in the map was assyrian empire. :lol:

dont you think my house should stay my house or is it ok if someone comes take his weaopon hold it to my head and say hello this is my house now.



Well then don't show that misleading green Assyrian Empire map. Show this one instead:

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:43 pm

Man there is work to do... :lol: :lol:
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:50 pm

As long as the Kurds get the hole Media empire.. no prob..
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:52 pm

what is that for a map??


the assyrian empire lool it was bigger then that.

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:53 pm

Mh I know some guys from The Hittite Liberation Party who won't be too happy with that...
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PostAuthor: heval » Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:02 am

Rumtaya wrote:what is that for a map??


the assyrian empire lool it was bigger then that.


Because the Assyrian Empire isn't Assyria, just as the Median Empire isn't Kurdistan. Kurds lived where the Assyrian Empire expanded too long before Assyrians settled there.

That map I posted shows the true origin of Assyrian people and their land between the Tigris and Euphrates. The map you posted says that nearly the entire Middle East is Assyrian.
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:10 am

And it may be artificial to speak of "assyria" whereas there was never such state...not sure the concept of nation state existed in that time!
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PostAuthor: Heja » Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:33 am

Tomjez, has a really pure nationalist turkish mindset. ( Maybe French citizen, brainwashed by Greywolves while staying in Turkey :wink: )

You can easily find out that when he talks about "turkmens", by using the phrase "Turkmenli", and then he goes on to say "northirakian". what kind of bullshit is that?!!! So the kurds in "syria", "turkey" and "iran" are talking in "northiraqian"?!!! You should get a noble-prize for your discoveries!!! (Maybe from university of Istanbul).

You are just afraid of the word "kurdish", right?

But Turkey's prime minister ("Erdogan") has just recently admitted to use the words "kurd" and "kurdish".
[ Turkey has a kurdish problem, http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=65335 ]

I have seen " Assyrians" who have been from "Mosul".

In your stupid map, "Mosul" , "Zaxo", "Hewler (Erbil)" have been denoted as "Turkmen" cities, which is a lie.

Turkmens are living in three cities:

1."Kerkuk (20% (200,000) as the last election revealed", with kurds around 60% (500,000), and another 20%200,000 Settler arabs (to be expelled)).
2. "Telehfer"
3."Tuz-Khurmato"

Assyrians should get their rights too, as well as Turkmens, Greeks, Armenians, Kurds. The days of "Disguised Turkish Grey-wolves" are numbered.

Kurds should from a union with christians in the middle-east (Armenians, Assyrians) to defeat the chauvinists in the ME.
Ez hêdî diçim, bela digîje min; ko zû diçim, ez digîjim belayê!!!

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PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:58 am

Heja wrote:Tomjez, has a really pure nationalist turkish mindset. ( Maybe French citizen, brainwashed by Greywolves while staying in Turkey :wink: )

You can easily find out that when he talks about "turkmens", by using the phrase "Turkmenli", and then he goes on to say "northirakian". what kind of bullshit is that?!!! So the kurds in "syria", "turkey" and "iran" are talking in "northiraqian"?!!! You should get a noble-prize for your discoveries!!! (Maybe from university of Istanbul).

You are just afraid of the word "kurdish", right?

But Turkey's prime minister ("Erdogan") has just recently admitted to use the words "kurd" and "kurdish".
[ Turkey has a kurdish problem, http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=65335 ]

I have seen " Assyrians" who have been from "Mosul".

In your stupid map, "Mosul" , "Zaxo", "Hewler (Erbil)" have been denoted as "Turkmen" cities, which is a lie.

Turkmens are living in three cities:

1."Kerkuk (20% (200,000) as the last election revealed", with kurds around 60% (500,000), and another 20%200,000 Settler arabs (to be expelled)).
2. "Telehfer"
3."Tuz-Khurmato"

Assyrians should get their rights too, as well as Turkmens, Greeks, Armenians, Kurds. The days of "Disguised Turkish Grey-wolves" are numbered.

Kurds should from a union with christians in the middle-east (Armenians, Assyrians) to defeat the chauvinists in the ME.



Tomjez is a Frenchman from France and a supporter of Kurdistan as he has not stated the opposite...

And as for the "Turkmen" they should either be happy with being 1st degree citizen of Kurdistan or they can go back to Mongolia...
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:07 am

Heja. I'm so happy to be hated both by stupid grey wolves and mononeuronals kurds..

I was making fun of turkish nationalism. Pauvre couillon!!!!!

When I say "northirakian" and "northiraqi" it's a way of showing how RIDICULOUS turkish nationalism is. I make people feel really unconfortable in turkey. When I say "I was in Kurdistan" they begin to say "'THERE IS NO KURDISTAN" so I just take their side saying "You're right! When I was in Northirak try to learn northiraqi to talk with northiraqians"...No problem, they know I'm paying their legs! Especially in turkish it sounds even weirder. Küzeyiraklilar (kurds) Küzeyirakçi (kurdish) !!!!!!
I was showing this stupid grey wolve map of "turkmeneli" just as an example of how stupid they can be. Didn't you read what I wrote above it??????? Do you have no idea of what second degree is?????????????????????????????????????????,,

Read my other posts on this thread. If you speak french go to my blog. If you don't you can try to count the words "kurdistan" in "kurdes" and you will see I'm not to afraid of it

http://istanbuldakitom.blogspot.com/

I'm telling about my trip to KURDISTAN! And you will see I'm a friend of kurds...
Diri: this stupid Iraqi Turkmen front does not represent turkmen population of kurdistan. They are claiming 2,5 millions of turkmens, they are full of grey wolve ideology, they're even making the grey wolve sign at their meetings...Turkmens did not vote for those fuckers, and Ankara is not backing them up too much after this fiasco. The turkmens I met in Erbil spoke kurdish, worked with kurds and I was happy to meet them because at least someone understood what I was saying
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I'm not giving up my kurmanci effort though! But....Zor xirab e!

As for assyrian: Assyrian is recognized as an official language in regions where they live. It is in the constitution draft at least :) :wink:
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:11 am

And diri thank you for defending me but

I'm from France Ok. I'm no frenchman. I come from the breton people, cultural minority speaking a celtic language and conquered by France a few centuries ago. I don't feel french at all, no more than a Kurd feels arab or turk. And that's why I feel so close with kurdes.

So stop with the "frenchman" :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :wink:
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