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[Rumtaya]

NO BROTHER LIKE I SAID SORRY I DONE A MISTAKE WITH THE HAKKARI MOUNTAINS LOOL.

I DONT DENY THEM THEY ARE 100% KURDISH

AND THE OTHERS ARE LIGHT BROWN AND NOT SUCH MOUNTAINS LOOL

[Rumtaya]

here my correction



sorry the writings came bad i saved them as jpeg file but never mind the one in turkey should be calle kamilistan land, the in iran is wanna be aryans and that of arab is who cares land

[Vladimir]

It looks like an ugly potato now.. o well..

[tomjez]

Lovely, you gave Rize (Laz city) to Kurds, but you took Agri, Dogubeyazit...mount Ararat!

[Rumtaya]

Lovely, you gave Rize (Laz city) to Kurds, but you took Agri, Dogubeyazit...mount Ararat

No Ararat isnt in that map its near at the border of Kurdia but not in it.

and who cares about laz

like we know mountains are kurdish lands and plains are assyrian lands

[tomjez]

and who cares about laz

The more I know you, the more I'm convinced of your democratic commitement

PROTECT MY MINORITY! FUCK THE OTHERS!

[Rumtaya]

My dear Britton Tomjez i am so sorry if i have took a city of the georgians or the laz people can you forgive me?

the map isnt 100% there are no names in it i just follow the kurdish mountains hahaha.

PROTECT MY MINORITY! FUCK THE OTHERS!

no i dont think that

and i am sure laz city would be better under kurdish rule or????

kurds know how to handle mountains their best friends Kurd & Mountain enjoy it.

its like the russians and the winter which makes for other people hard to conquer it.

thats why turkey still cry if they try to search after kurdish peshmergas.

if kurdia and assyria is independent well help britton to get independent and you can be the ruler hahahaha.

[Piling]

The problem is that : in the country you call "Assyria", how much Christians live and how much Arabs ? I don't even talk about Kurds (Yezidis or not) or other (Shabaks ?) who live in the left bank of Mosul area, but of Arab sunis who live in the right bank of Mosul. Are you sure that you are a Christian majority in these districts ?
BTW American can hardly defend the right side of Mosul by night and the left one is for the moment protected by peshmergas... I wonder why the Assyrian nationalists don't go to fight for "Assyrian region". For the moment, that is only Kurds and American who struggle there.

[tomjez]

Yes but they are millions, waiting for the right moments!

[Rumtaya]

The problem is that : in the country you call "Assyria", how much Christians live and how much Arabs ? I don't even talk about Kurds (Yezidis or not) or other (Shabaks ?) who live in the left bank of Mosul area, but of Arab sunis who live in the right bank of Mosul. Are you sure that you are a Christian majority in these districts ?
BTW American can hardly defend the right side of Mosul by night and the left one is for the moment protected by peshmergas... I wonder why the Assyrian nationalists don't go to fight for "Assyrian region". For the moment, that is only Kurds and American who struggle there.

hmm in that area there are more then 2 million Christians some 1-2 million more assimilated assyrians. some 2 million kurds and some 500 000 yezeidis and the same turkmens.

but they can live under assyrian law like they are living under iraq it would be more better for them cause assyrians are democratic people.

You want the Assyrians to fight? who tells you that there arent Assyrians fighting?

did you think about that Assyrians are within kurdish militia no you didnt.

the problem is usa got some 250 000 Soldiers in Iraq the Kurds some 300 000 - 500 000 thousand peshmerga fighter i dont know how many of them in iraq.

and maybe there are just 5000-20 000 zowaa fighter(Assyrian Democraty Movment) so well those work together.

you want the Assyrians to live under the islamic law???? very democraty dont you think

as the kurds claim for the home land we can claim too.

there are 20 million kurds only in turkey and of these there are the half of the assimilated kurds but like we know they are still count as kurds and elsewhere they live the kurds count them as kurdia citizen.

so the same assyrians can do and should do maybe there are just 1.5-2 mio assyrian christians but there are more them 3 million assimilated assyrians.

an assyrian is assyrian never mind if christian, muslim or jew or what ever.

they share the same nationiality thats in their blood the other is their faith.

Yes but they are millions, waiting for the right moments!

i will lauhg later about it please remind me

do you guys really think the arabs in northen mesopotamia are really arabs??

just read about the cities of arbela, mousl and also tikrit those have been center of the assyrian christians till the islam came.

its our good right and my kurdish brothers should agree with me if i say we should claim on our homeland we are also human and we want our rights and we want to rule ourselves we saw what came out if others ruled on us.

you guys should agree to we bring democraty really democraty in the middle east and it wouldnt be anymore an arab dominated place.

time to change no place for opressors and arabisim.

[tomjez]

I you count as assyrian all the former habitants of mesopotamia who have been islamized 1300 years ago, indeed you are a lot

[Rumtaya]

I you count as assyrian all the former habitants of mesopotamia who have been islamized 1300 years ago, indeed you are a lot

no man not all alot of them.

therer are also many or syria is mostly inhabited by arabizied arameans.

the same to the northen regions of iraq there are alot assimilated assyrians.

i dont count them like you think i count them as assyrian citizen cause they are and have always been on assyrian soil before the islam came or christianity.

what you think assyrians have always been just 3-4 millions???

nope there have benn like hm 30 times more then that but they were assimilated, massacred etc.

the best example just look what happend to assyrians in the first world war genoziding 70% and like that you have to imagine was it before but not that worse.

the same i can say to kurds that mostly the people in turkey are like hmm 40% or even more kurds and of this like 70% assimilated kurds.

who knows maybe more.



what is your problem if there would be that kind of assyria do you have something against it?

do you think the arabs need some thousands more country

man there are like 20 or more countries for 200 million arabs

these are arab countries



dont you think an Assyrian country or kurdish country would be more then fair?????ß


tell me your problem.

and dont say your not realistic or so.

just look at Lybien how big it is and there are just like 5 million people

so what we are in the right to claim for our homeland.

[Piling]

you want the Assyrians to live under the islamic law???? very democraty dont you think

I don't care of Islamic law but if people in Mosul are Arab /sunni in majority how could you democratically claim that it is your land ? The only attempt like that, was Israël : but sionists went in Palestine, struggled (sometimes with terrorists groups) and at the end fought against Palestinians, just for seizing the country. And they are still fighting ... Do you believe that Arabs of Mosul area would give you the country just because "Assyrians were there in 2000 BC ?"

as the kurds claim for the home land we can claim too.

But most of them live in their own country. And in elections, they are in majority, that is the difference. If you are not more numerous than Arabs in your "Assyria", what are you going to do ?

do you guys really think the arabs in northen mesopotamia are really arabs??

It is not a question of genetic. Do you think really that "Assyrian Chrsitians" are grand grand sons of Ancient Assyrians ? No more than Ariel Sharon is the grand-son of King David !

But if these people claim to be Atrab and not Assyrian, it is their right. And Arabs in Mosul are very ARAB (ahem, nationalists indeed) and VERY Sunni (quite intolerant with others). So you can draw all the maps you like but a country could not be obtained with a pen.

[Diri]

hmm 40% or even more kurds and of this like 70% assimilated kurds.

Rumtaya... This isn't a fact... Yes, maybe 40% of Turkeys population are ethnic Kurds - but not 70% of those are assimilated... There are 15- 20 million Kurds in Turkey who SAY they are Kurdish... Meaning 15-20 million are not assimilated... But about 5-10 million Kurds TOTALY in Turkey, Syria, Iran and Iraq have been assimilated...

I am not saying that these are facts - they are not - they are just my own estimates...

[Rumtaya]

Who cares on majority of Arabs in Mousl or Ninawa i dont give a shit to arabs.

who tried to arabizie my nation.

well you say it we should do it like israelis did or still does it.

get out the arabs get in the Assyrians.

no for sure Assyrians of today arent 100% the descents of the old Assyrians.

No nation is 100%.

But it is proved that we are Assyrians.

what you talking about 2000BC i am not talking about the Empire here it was much bigger.

Assyrians used to live in these areas i marked as Assyria till 1300 but then the barbarian Mongols came destoried the Assyrian Church and many Assyrians had to flee in the Kurdish Mountains of Hakkari.

we have the right to claim on our home and if that is accept for sure alot will or should move back.

Basta!

about the kurdish numbers i wasnt so sure about it so never mind.

Kurds no how to do alot of children god dont make them less.