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PostAuthor: cazyun » Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:48 pm

assyrians are arabs...there is no shame for them to admit it :wink:

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PostAuthor: Parsi » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:53 pm

cazyun wrote:assyrians are arabs...there is no shame for them to admit it :wink:


They are what THEY feel not what YOU think they are. Get over yourself. You annoy me more and more everyday with your arrogant remarks :roll: :?
Look to your history and roots to find your true self.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:23 pm

Cazyun - are YOU gonna tell people what they are?

You should relax the aggressive/arrogant wibe you are on before it turns into a fight again...
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PostAuthor: cazyun » Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:50 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic

they are related to other semitic people like jews n arabs.= makes them related to arabs and are arabs :wink:

my point of view and proof 8)

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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:36 pm

cazyun wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic

they are related to other semitic people like jews n arabs.= makes them related to arabs and are arabs :wink:

my point of view and proof 8)



Okey... So Kurds are Persians... Or wait - Kurds are Indians... :lol:
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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:37 pm

No sorry - I meant to say:

Kurds are Norwegians... 8)
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PostAuthor: cazyun » Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:02 pm

Okey... So Kurds are Persians... Or wait - Kurds are Indians... :lol:[/quote]

howcome? no kurds are not persians..but to use indo iranic term makes them iranies by pan iranists :wink:

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PostAuthor: cazyun » Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:03 pm

well well bro diri you seems to be lost first you say indians and now norwegian :? :lol: :lol:

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PostAuthor: Lovetobewithfriends » Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:27 pm

nope Kurds are natives Hurrian,Guti,you can see the similarity between Guti to Kurd.And then Corduenne you can see the similarity too and there is old maps you can see Corduenne it belongs 60BC:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kurd ... ophene.jpg

How similar it is Cord,Kurd.Like Kart,Kurt :lol:

Hurrians are native people who are Caucasian as they said.but Kurds adopted Persian culture as i know.It is true,isnt it?

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PostAuthor: Rizgaraso » Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:54 pm

Lovetobewithfriends wrote:but Kurds adopted Persian culture as i know.It is true,isnt it?


Not that's not true:
When Arians (Medes and persians) immigrated to Iran in the second millenium BC, they had no glorious culture but there were already glorious civilizations such as Elamites in the south and Hurrians in the north.

Medes mixed with Hurrians, adopted Hurrian culture but imposed their Iranic language on them

Later Persians mixed with Medes (who already had an Hurrian culture) and Elamites, adopted their (i.e.e Medes and Elamite) cultures but imposed their language on them (elamites).


So as you see every new dynasty or nation adopted culture of native or previous nations.

A simple example in modern times is when Turkic and Mongolic tribes invaded Iran they adopted Iranian culture not vice versa.
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PostAuthor: Lovetobewithfriends » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:17 pm

Ok got it,thanks again Rizgaraso,i think i can learn much more thing if we can talk more

So are we mixed with Medes?So we have our Aryan side too?? :roll:

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PostAuthor: Rizgaraso » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:08 pm

Lovetobewithfriends wrote:Ok got it,thanks again Rizgaraso,i think i can learn much more thing if we can talk more

So are we mixed with Medes?So we have our Aryan side too?? :roll:


Kurds like many other nations are a hybrid people.

Early researchers such as Minorsky suggested a predominant Mede origin for Kurds; however modern researchers trace the origin of Kurds to pre-Median peoples. Today it is assumed that ancient Kurds (Karda, Kurtie... etc) who spoke an isolated language, (belonging to no language family), gradually adopted an Iranic vernacular in the first centuries of first millennium BC.
The Kordouchis are a product of this contact and mixing. they were an aryanized people who originally were a native people of their region.
It is generallly said that the most accurate option could be Medes. The original Kurds could not switch to their new language without a mixing with them (i.e. with medes).

If Medes alternative is not true, then we got another alternative: The Mittani (indo-Iranian) aristocrats who ruled a country populated mostly by Hurrians.

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Re: The origin of the Assyrian people

PostAuthor: Rubar » Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:45 am

Jamo wrote:Kurds make everthing possible with their lies. They can make a Zaza a Kurd and an Assyrian an Arab. Zazas are Arians but that doesn't make them Kurds and Assyrians are Semitic which doesn't make them Arabic.



YOU ARE THE LIAR!!!!!!

IT IS NOT KURDS WHO CLAIM THAT SO-CALLED ZAZA'S ARE KURDISH.....DIMILI KURDS CALL THEMSELVES KURDISH.

THE ONLY PLACE ZAZA IS VIEWED AS DIFFERENT TO KURDS IS ON THE NET....WHERE INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS YOURSELF TRY TO PLAY WITH KURDISH IDENTITY.
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