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[piskrt]

I see we have a torah scholar here.

I am not a schlar but I have read Tırah in Turkish.

[cheryl]

turkish is not the language of torah, and that must be why you have made the mistaken implication that "Torah has much stricter rules concerning human life."

torah has much stricter rules concerning a miniscule portion of human life, that part of which is known as the people israel. torah is jewish law. it applies only to jews and to NO ONE else.

this is your first mistake.

[zurderer]

Turkish nationalists hate Islam, kurdish nationalists hate Islam.

Because islam itself ban nationalism, also both dont like something common with others.


by the way, same islam leaded a bunch of people from viena to egypt.

[piskrt]

turkish is not the language of torah, and that must be why you have made the mistaken implication that "Torah has much stricter rules concerning human life."

Oh really. Turkish Jews are praying in Turkish just like many non-muslims. Besides, if you go to a church or synagague you can take a turkish translation without paying a fee.

[heval]

This behaviour is unfortunately the norm almost every nationalists of every nation. Turkish nationalists hate Islam, kurdish nationalists hate Islam.

Ha! Highly disagree. Seems as though you are not defining "nationalism" correctly.

[piskrt]

Ha! Highly disagree. Seems as though you are not defining "nationalism" correctly.

What do you mean?

[Diri]

I am Muslim and I am a nationalist... Islam has nothing to do with Nationality. Islam says somethings ABOUT Nationality - but nothing negative...

Just that God has made many nationalities, so that we may learn from eachother and that we may learn to be tolerant...

And we all know the story of Bable (the ruins of which are actualy said to be south of Elezîz)...

Anyway - I suggest you watch a Mella from South Kurdistan preach - they ALWAYS use Islam as a means to further their national rights...

And I'm lovin' it...

[heval]

Ha! Highly disagree. Seems as though you are not defining "nationalism" correctly.

What do you mean?

Well, to say that any nationalists hate Islam is a generalization because the beliefs of religion and identity in terms of ethnicity, culture and nationality do not necessarily need to conflict with other. This depends on a person's interpretation of one's religion or other personal beliefs.

[heval]

In fact, if I may add to my post... Your general statement, which seems to imply that Islam and nationalism are incompatible reminds me of biased and flawed Western interpretations (and orientalism) of Islam in the midst of growing nationalistic ideology among and within states in the Middle East.

[Rubar]

torah has much stricter rules concerning a miniscule portion of human life, that part of which is known as the people israel. torah is jewish law. it applies only to jews and to NO ONE else.

Good point. Thats why we don't see some radical jewish organisation declaring fathwas (or the Hebrew equivalent) against anyone.

I think it is the revolutionary aspect of Islam that is the problem. Because by their nature they will have to convert the rest of the world otherwise they have not accomplished the main task given to them in Quran. Which is the reason why so many Kurds were massacred during the process of Islamization of Kurdistan.

[piskrt]

I think it is the revolutionary aspect of Islam that is the problem. Because by their nature they will have to convert the rest of the world otherwise they have not accomplished the main task given to them in Quran. Which is the reason why so many Kurds were massacred during the process of Islamization of Kurdistan.

I a growing sick of your rhetoric. I wonder how many people have been killed by your beloved kurdish militarist organizations in the process of "kurdization of kurdistan"!

[Rubar]

I think it is the revolutionary aspect of Islam that is the problem. Because by their nature they will have to convert the rest of the world otherwise they have not accomplished the main task given to them in Quran. Which is the reason why so many Kurds were massacred during the process of Islamization of Kurdistan.

I a growing sick of your rhetoric. I wonder how many people have been killed by your beloved kurdish militarist organizations in the process of "kurdization of kurdistan"!

now now....lets take one step back....Kurds are indigenous to the region. Which means that Kurds were there all a long. May be this small fact was left out of the Turkish state curriculum, but it is something that you will have to come to terms with.
Your comments are so stupid that I seriously do not blaim you. It is only the end result of years of indoctrination by Turkish State schools. May be one day you will realise the difference between an argument and nonsense. Until that day, I am sorry but I cannot help you.

[piskrt]

now now....lets take one step back....Kurds are indigenous to the region. Which means that Kurds were there all a long. May be this small fact was left out of the Turkish state curriculum, but it is something that you will have to come to terms with.

What does it have to do with my comments? Did I say anything that kurds are newcomers or anything near it? But, you can not show me ONE NATION on earth which found their nation on the sole grounds that we were here since the earth has been popped up!

Your comments are so stupid that I seriously do not blaim you. It is only the end result of years of indoctrination by Turkish State schools. May be one day you will realise the difference between an argument and nonsense. Until that day, I am sorry but I cannot help you

Do not worry! I am not indoctrinated like you. I do not believe in the superiority of the kurds and call it democratic rights of kurds.

[Piling]

I do not believe in the superiority of the kurds and call it democratic rights of kurds.

If you don't believe in Turks' superiority that OK you are not assimilated brainwashed, but a bit rebel in Turkey then ?

[Rubar]

now now....lets take one step back....Kurds are indigenous to the region. Which means that Kurds were there all a long. May be this small fact was left out of the Turkish state curriculum, but it is something that you will have to come to terms with.

What does it have to do with my comments? Did I say anything that kurds are newcomers or anything near it? But, you can not show me ONE NATION on earth which found their nation on the sole grounds that we were here since the earth has been popped up!

Your comments are so stupid that I seriously do not blaim you. It is only the end result of years of indoctrination by Turkish State schools. May be one day you will realise the difference between an argument and nonsense. Until that day, I am sorry but I cannot help you

Do not worry! I am not indoctrinated like you. I do not believe in the superiority of the kurds and call it democratic rights of kurds.

I am sorry you are a moron. Just like how I had concluded at the beginning of our incounters. I cannot participate in any discussion with you. I will not answer anymore of your comments. You are simple a waste of space. PERIOD.