European Parliament condemns Ankara for probs in Kurdistan

[Vladimir]

Turkey can't reform when the PKK exists. If the armed struggle, attacks, etc continue.. they will not reform.

[heval]

Turkey can't reform when the PKK exists. If the armed struggle, attacks, etc continue.. they will not reform.

Turkey hadn't done much to make changes to their system during the PKK ceasefire either. So, armed struggle or not, they have so far shown they are incapable of reform and changes.

And if they cannot reform, then the EU should give them a long kiss goodbye and Turkey's military can happy and oppress all they wish to.

[tomjez]

So, armed struggle or not, they have so far shown they are incapable of reform and changes.

that's just not true honestly, I know I'm always the bad guy defending Turkey and I'm a traitor and everything, but Turkey IS reforming. For such a paranoid maniac psychorigid State, they changed a lot very quickly!

[heval]

So, armed struggle or not, they have so far shown they are incapable of reform and changes.

that's just not true honestly, I know I'm always the bad guy defending Turkey and I'm a traitor and everything, but Turkey IS reforming. For such a paranoid maniac psychorigid State, they changed a lot very quickly!

Notice on my previous post, I cared to make the statement that Turkey's changes are so far very little and not that they haven't changed at all. We all know of the changes they have made, whether we have seen it through what we read or hear, or seen it with our own eyes.

But - let's be honest, the changes they have made are far from the changes that need to be made. They still haven't achieved an acceptable level of freedom of speech. The "Kurdish southeast" is still poverty-stricken, and crime as a result of poverty is higher than ever. Displaced peoples are still waiting for their reimbursements. They have been very rejecting to ideas of Kurdish education, or Kurdish-anything for that matter. And now, riot or not, they are putting children in prisons. This list goes on and on.

Sure, they have made changes and these changes might be good when comparing this newer Turkey to the older one (ie. the Kurdish language was previously banned in public, but now, only in the political scene - shall we celebrate?)... but they are no where near what is acceptable. It is funny that you said, "such a paranoid maniac psychorigid State," because if that is what they truly are, even to you who defends them, then they should have no place in the EU.

[Piling]

They won't enter if EU if they don't change. And Eu will never accpet to have a "Kurdish question" within its borders.

But if their candidacy breaks, and Turkey returns at his former "Nationalist Anti Terror Law", then Kurds will suffer a lot, and Southner Kurdistan could prepare itself to war. That is a part of TAF and PKK's wishes, in fact.