Iranian troops attack to South Kurdistan

[dyaoko]

who made the first Kurdish TV ?

Someone who fled the PKK and had been condemned to death by Öcalan.

And concenring the action for Kurdish language, well children who were rapted by the PKK in Suleimanieh and had been bred in their schools and their guerilla forgot all their Kurdesh and spoke only Turkish when they had been released. They were supposed to make study. They learnt only their Apoist propaganda anf their families should attack their house to take their children back.

(One of them had been rapted at 8 years old. He fled at 18 and had been found in Hewlêr. He has forgottent all his past, his name, spoke only Turkish and believed that his family were dead. Fortunaltely he could find them at least. )

And concerning Öcalan's way of writing ahem I am fair : he writes as so bad in Kurdish than in Turkish.

I said I dont support them .but KRG has beeen so weaker than PKK in using modern tools and in caring for kurdish language.

the things which u say about PKK if be true, are really sad, I never SUPPORT them. but they really do better than KRG in some ways, "considering the money and power that KRG has "

in slemani u can hardly find a building that has right spell name.
ppl use a lot of arabic words (because of the Lack of Kurdish language eduaction and TV/radios there dont care using arabic words )
KRG is doing really weak.

[Piling]

The PKK is not poor you know. They have lost a great number of supporters but they are still rich, because of trafic and drug connexion, and of money support by people. They have had millions and millions of budget.

[dyaoko]

whatever our discussion is about KRG's silence about invading Kurdistan.
we shouldnt think KRG is so smart and everything they do is because of their smartness... may be some of what they do is because their dependency on others .

[Piling]

Perhaps, they negotiate secretly as they claim... But I think they are not angry that Iran shells PKK basis. Better than if Turkey do it, for Iran won't stay in Kurdistan.

And the actions of the PKK from Southern Kurdistan are still a big problem for the future of Southern Kurdistan. Even if US or Turkey would accpet the independance of Kurdistan they would refuse it because of the PKK presence and military action. How could you ask to be recognized as a state by your neighbors if you are a shelter for a guerilla in war with these states ? KRG is obliged to resolve the problem.

[Lovetobewithfriends]

In fact,being only one real ally of America was very good luck for us.It is easy that understanding Trigan but i think for now Barzani and Talabani just want more developed,more ındependent region or real country in Iraq.They are politicians,in deep they know it is hard fighting against Turkey and Iran but they need a target,a way.Of course,Kurds can fight but why we are trying to call Turkish soldiers to Kurdistan.Everytime we can fight,everytime you are ready to fight.The world saw Iraq,Kurds helped America.And now Kurds are growing in Iraq.I am sorry but things are not as easy as you wrote,just like action game.Some Kurds in Turkish Army,you can't guarantee when America will go,Shitees,Sunnis and Iran(did i miss something?) what will they do you can't guarantee.You can't give Kurdish soul who have Kurdish blood but still don't want to think on this way because of stupid reasons.Everything is good when it is right time.step by step.This smart Kurdish people don't deserve that.Because we are enought honest and brave we don't say lie and we are saying "we are kurd".How many people can say that in this conditions?

But my last article was a quick one,not clear.I mean Turkey should help Barzani to build country in Iraq.We are seing when America is in,Turkey is afraid of them.In addition to this ıf Turks are really democratic why we cant be with Turks,is it worth to fight with Turks and Iranians for country?Even when we have a state goes to independence in Iraq,this is a luck for all Kurds to live in better conditions.Maybe nobody won't accept that but this chance is giving to Kurds by PKK,Talabani and Barzani.Nobody gave us.Just their belief gave to us.If we don't like them or adore them.If Turks are against and anti-democratic(And i will suprise if they really give rights to us) we can allways have chance to fight.We won't lose anything.We are becoming stronger,aren't we?Things are not going on too bad for us,look at the other nations Turks,Iranians,Iraq,Syria,they are at their best performance.When stupids lose in chaos,clever man allways knows how to win. .

Your idea is good Trigan but if you are true.Grecee have to fight against Turkey Know and Armenia and Cyprus too and East Europe.We have to think deeper.(Nearly lots of nation)It is all clear and honest above.Just an idea for help you a bit to think.Thanks,friends

[BlueEyedCat]

Our army in South-Kurdistan is much stronger than Turkish and Iranian army combined.

Do you know how much weapons we “inherit” form Saddam era? And we were always lions of our mountains. Nobody can destroy us in our mountains. Especially not Turksss or Iranians. Turkish and Iranian armour vehicles are nothing in the mountains, they’re like match-boxes. And we Kurds have heavy artillery too. And what about enemy air-force? Kurds need only stingers too shoot those bitches down. Btw. why do you thing we build so many airports in Kurdistan?

And more important, we Kurds are more men than Turks and Iranians combined. They can’t fight.

If you want to fight against Turkish army sooo much, why don't you leave your comfortable life in Amsterdam and join PKK instead of proding Kurds in Iraq to fight againts Turkey.

[missIndependent]

Do you know how much weapons we “inherit” form Saddam era? And we were always lions of our mountains. Nobody can destroy us in our mountains. Especially not Turksss or Iranians. Turkish and Iranian armour vehicles are nothing in the mountains, they’re like match-boxes. And we Kurds have heavy artillery too. And what about enemy air-force? Kurds need only stingers too shoot those bitches down. Btw. why do you thing we build so many airports in Kurdistan?

And more important, we Kurds are more men than Turks and Iranians combined. They can’t fight.

ur right, nobody can destroy us in our mountain, but im afraid, i have to say both turkish n persian troops have found their way threw out our mountains with the help of some kurdish lozzers(xu-firush) who know the way of how to survive in our kurdish mountains
so, i would be too sure dear

[BlueEyedCat]

Currently, 314 Turkish companies signed contracts for buiseness, building, etc in SOuthern Kurdistan, for a total value of 1 billion of $. Economically, Kurdish Region is a good opportunity for Turkey. KRG has found another way of dissuasion : money and contracts. Cleverer than shouting "Go to War !"

Though i agree it's a good idea for Kurds to cooperate with Turkey instead of fighting against, but i must say that 1 billion $ is nothing for Turkey. You're talking about a country who has total international trade volume of 210 billion $ and whose engineering contractors have completed 100 billion $ of project in whole world.

So don't ever think that Turkey may not put an embargo on you. This trade is not that important for us but critical for you.

1- Whole Kurdistan depends on Turkish goods. Even Mesud Barzani and his family earns good amount of money from this trade. His family holds distribution rights of some Turkish firms like Beko, Vestel, Ulker etc. in Kurdistan. Plus, KDP earns a lot of commissions from the trade between Turkey and Iraq.

2- If Turkey puts embargo on Kurdistan, it will be impossible or very hard for them to sell their oil.


Just look at Armenia issue, they were so rude againts Turkey's cooperation wills in 1991's and all refused our kind desires. Lol, last time i checked, they were starving. They pay twice more money to Iranians and Georgians to buy Turkish goods. In 1991's there was 4.5 million Armenians in Armenia but since after we put embargo on them 1.5 million Armenians fled away Armenia and their population is below 3 million right now. And every year 150.000 Armenian flees away from Armenia.

So for your benefits, before defying against Turkey consider that Armenia case.

I don't want to seem arrogant but please be realistic or Kurdistan will be in the same situation.

[Diri]

BlueEyedCat...

Brother I am so surprised... You are so right... You ARE arrogant...

[missIndependent]

blueeyedcat, r u turkish????? just curious!!

[Diri]

blueeyedcat, r u turkish????? just curious!!

Yes he is... Didn't you read his other posts?

You don't need to be a rocketscientist to figure that out...

He writes about Turkey like it was HEAVEN!

[missIndependent]

yeah, i read his posts, n i was kinda like, what da heck
just wanted to be sure lol!
let him makes us lough for abit

[Piling]

He writes about Turkey like it was HEAVEN!

Yeap. We could wonder why so much Turks are living in Germany or France.

[Diri]

He writes about Turkey like it was HEAVEN!

Yeap. We could wonder why so much Turks are living in Germany or France.

Yes... Or why Turks BEG European tourists to marry them so they can come to Europe with a permission to stay!

[Vladimir]

He writes about Turkey like it was HEAVEN!

Yeap. We could wonder why so much Turks are living in Germany or France.

Yes... Or why Turks BEG European tourists to marry them so they can come to Europe with a permission to stay!

Kurds and Turks.. both do that.