Our so-called Friends...

[Diri]

not populated with kemalist islamist pure blood turks

What does that mean? If u are an islamist u are not kemalist. besides, anyone who feels himself or herself a part of the turkish nation is a turk. malatya with its kurdish citizens is a turkish city. because almost all people are law-abiding, decent, prudent people.

Hahahahah...

So you are being prejudice and saying: Cities where Turks are - and where there are LAW-ABIDING Kurds is a Turkish city...

But a city where there are Turks and Kurds who are NOT Law-abiding is a KURDISH city? So in other words... Kurds are animals? Is that your stance? Same as all Turks think... You can't possibly be Alevi...

[malatyali]

And if you're an Alevi, you must be aware that your community does not exist officially in turkey...

What does that officially mean?

[tomjez]

It's not recognized by the authorities...if you see the statistices, turks are supposed to be 98 % muslim...weird isn't it, with 15 or 20 % alevis!!

[Diri]

It's not recognized by the authorities...if you see the statistices, turks are supposed to be 98 % muslim...weird isn't it, with 15 or 20 % alevis!!

Some of those Alevis see themselves as Muslim, Tom...

But most don't...

So your right... It is very strange - and I think it is 99% Muslim by the way - not 98%...

[tomjez]

Yeah some of them see themselves as muslim, but what the hell, some kurds see themselves as turks!

[malatyali]

Yes since 1980 national ideology is more or less islamist as well...check MHP ideology, only muslim turks have a right to exist in turkey!

Are you stupid or what? MHP was a pro-american party whose sole aim was killing leftists in order to keep Turkey america's backyard. besides, no where in its pages mentins it such a thing. however, it may be the case in France where muslims are second class citizens.

[malatyali]

Yeah some of them see themselves as muslim, but what the hell, some kurds see themselves as turks!

All turkish muslims see themselves as muslims. it is the turkish interpretion of islam with its shamanist elements. besides, i do not care what pro-american governments have done so far. i am turkish and alevi. and i am proud of that.

[tomjez]

MHP still exists, and their aim was alos to kill kurds, leftists as you said, writers, journalists...

It has not bee created by the american, as far as I know alparslan turkes was turk, and he was arrested in 1945 an put in jail for "nazi sympathies" during the war...Most of the ideology of MHP comes from the writings of the fascist writer Atsiz...

I say they are islamists because they are anti-christian: each time greeks or armenians (from turkey, so turkish citizens technically) try to do something they get 10 stupid yelling MHPcis throwing stuff at them...An exhibit I visited in Istanbul last summer was attacked by some MHP: the pictures showed the anti christians riots of 1955...

[malatyali]

MHP still exists, and their aim was alos to kill kurds, leftists as you said, writers, journalists...

It has not bee created by the american, as far as I know alparslan turkes was turk, and he was arrested in 1945 an put in jail for "nazi sympathies" during the war...Most of the ideology of MHP comes from the writings of the fascist writer Atsiz...

It has been created and supported by americans and their supporters within Turkey. Almost all of them were trained by americans soliders when they were fighting againist leftists in 1980s. So, whatever their ideology is they serve the aim of americans so they american supported.

I say they are islamists because they are anti-christian: each time greeks or armenians (from turkey, so turkish citizens technically) try to do something they get 10 stupid yelling MHPcis throwing stuff at them...An exhibit I visited in Istanbul last summer was attacked by some MHP: the pictures showed the anti christians riots of 1955...

They get along with Jews and turkish christians quiete well. one of the MHP leaders is a protestant turkish as far as I know.

[tomjez]

Bullshit.

[Diri]

ULAAAAAANNNNNNNN!

AMINA KODUKLARIM SİZİN YUZUNUZDEN SOUTH PARKI KACIRDIM. BU SAATE KADAR BEKLEMEM BOSA GİTTİ. HEPİNİZİN AMINIZA PATLIYCAM AMIK AGIZLAR!

Temashevanên hêja - bi wê awayê em dibînin, ziman û ferhenga tirka chawane...

Xelkê tirka bi piranî wek ew kurê keriye...

[Diri]

Türkce konustugunu biliyorum. Bosuna agız yapma. Zaza ca konusda delikanlı diyeyim!

Excuse me, but I do not understand why you are bitchy...

Relax... And stop acting like you own this forum...

I do speak Turkish... So what's it to you?

So you are Zaza?

[tomjez]

Funny thing, people who use "gay" as an insult are not often very open minded people...
this guy is in no way alevi anyway


Diri if you did not undestand: he is very angry because he missed south park because he was writing on the forum. then he insults us but I don't really understand.. anyway this says a lot about his (mental?) age!

[Diri]

Funny thing, people who use "gay" as an insult are not often very open minded people...
this guy is in no way alevi anyway


Diri if you did not undestand: he is very angry because he missed south park because he was writing on the forum. then he insults us but I don't really understand.. anyway this says a lot about his (mental?) age!

I don't see why they always abuse the word "gay"? I mean - all the islamist do that - whenever there is somebody they don't like he is gay... I don't think this guy is Alevi... He is just doing politics - he has been reading what is on the forum - and then decided to play a game...

Thanks by the way... I am fluent in Turkish...

[tomjez]

OK I though you told me you were fluent once, but I was not sure. So maybe you can translate me the last sentence I'm not sure I got it