Big Protest in North Kurdistan agansit Denmark

[zurderer]

Realy? I didnot know Turkey is arabic.

Pakis? iranians?

[piskrt]

Realy? I didnot know Turkey is arabic.

Pakis? iranians?

Turkey did not choose an islamic government. There were more than 50 governments in Turkey and only a fraction of them were islamists.

[Mosul]

If Turks were Muslim First, instead of nationlist Turk, they would be a much better peoples.

[tomjez]

Religion should not interfere with politics, cause irrationality can not rule the world.

[piskrt]

If Turks were Muslim First, instead of nationlist Turk, they would be a much better peoples.

Most of the Turks do not ecen bother to show up in Friday prays. Vast majority of the attenders are kurds who prays frequently.

[zurderer]

Realy? I didnot know Turkey is arabic.

Pakis? iranians?

Turkey did not choose an islamic government. There were more than 50 governments in Turkey and only a fraction of them were islamists.

err, what about AKP, Refah, Turgut Özal Anap?

If there is not such a danger, why army is fearing so much from them?

Most of the Turks do not ecen bother to show up in Friday prays. Vast majority of the attenders are kurds who prays frequently.

this is bullshit, nothing more.

Religion should not interfere with politics, cause irrationality can not rule the world.

Democracy is not a rational ruling system.

[piskrt]

err, what about AKP, Refah, Turgut Özal Anap?

If there is not such a danger, why army is fearing so much from them?

They werent chosen because they are islamist. They were chosen because the previous governments screwed up the country so much that people voted vor the most anti-establishment party they could vote for.

Also, you can not say that Army is always right about their analysis of current political problems in Turkey. They are trying to avoid islamism by banning religious education.

Democracy is not a rational ruling system.

Democracy is not only about elections. Democracy is also about avoiding arbitrary governments and las abiding citizens as well as rule-of-law. Without these, the elections makes no sense to me.

[tomjez]

Democracy is not only about elections. Democracy is also about avoiding arbitrary governments and las abiding citizens as well as rule-of-law. Without these, the elections makes no sense to me.

Democracy is more an ideal than a system of government: something that governments should try to achieve, knowing they never will perfectly!

[zurderer]

err, what about AKP, Refah, Turgut Özal Anap?

If there is not such a danger, why army is fearing so much from them?

They werent chosen because they are islamist. They were chosen because the previous governments screwed up the country so much that people voted vor the most anti-establishment party they could vote for.

Also, you can not say that Army is always right about their analysis of current political problems in Turkey. They are trying to avoid islamism by banning religious education.

Democracy is not a rational ruling system.

Democracy is not only about elections. Democracy is also about avoiding arbitrary governments and las abiding citizens as well as rule-of-law. Without these, the elections makes no sense to me.

who will decide which goverment is arbitrary? thanks but not army.(I hope)

these parties were choosen because of some problems, but right wing is always more powerful than leftist(in turkey they are kemalists) parties.

And If army was always right, now we wont have a kurdish problem. Infact with their coups, they are harmed turkey much. Because of them, we are still need 50-100 year to become an EU country.

what do you think about yeniceris? were they always right?

[piskrt]

who will decide which goverment is arbitrary? thanks but not army.(I hope)

The judiciary has to do that. Independant judiciary is as important as elected officials in a democracy. It is even more important in emerging democracies.

these parties were choosen because of some problems, but right wing is always more powerful than leftist(in turkey they are kemalists) parties.

Yes, I did not say anything contrary to that. Righwing is always more popular becasue of the elitist tendencies of lestists who are out of touch with the public.

And If army was always right, now we wont have a kurdish problem. Infact with their coups, they are harmed turkey much. Because of them, we are still need 50-100 year to become an EU country.

what do you think about yeniceris? were they always right?

I do not undertstand why you wrote that. I did not say Army is always right. I claimed the opposite of that. Arbitrary movements of Army alianated a large segment of the public from the "state". However, I do not think that all the burden should be placed on them. If the parties were responsible enough not to polirize the public, rasie their heads above their egoistic mantra and provide solutions to the people than Army would not find the causes to interfere into the politics. Remember, Army did not cause the 2001 crisis, the elected governments did.

[Mosul]

piskrt are you from northern kurdistan?

[piskrt]

piskrt are you from northern kurdistan?

Yes, I am from Urfa/Halfeti although I do not currently live there.

[Mosul]

Urfa really, famous Said Nursi was born their to, are their alot of his supporters their to?

[piskrt]

Yes, I am from Urfa/Halfeti although I do not currently live there.

Yes, he has. Even among upscale inteeligencia he has many supporters although he is not very much liked by secularists becasue he is a religious person. But, in Urfa he has many supporters I guess.[/quote]

[Rubar]

If Turks were Muslim First, instead of nationlist Turk, they would be a much better peoples.

Most of the Turks do not ecen bother to show up in Friday prays. Vast majority of the attenders are kurds who prays frequently.

I condemn all Kurds that participated in the rally against Denmark. Every single person that turned up in that rally is Anti-Kurdish plain and simple. Nobody can tell me otherwise. ANFAL Campaign was a Quranic reference used by Saddam, any self respecting Kurd should question the way in which Islam is employed as a Trojan Horse in Kurdistan. I don't mind people believing in Islam but please keep this bullshit POlitical Islam out.