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release of Ocalan is the first step to resolve the Kurdish issue



Vice President of the Kurdistan Region (Kosrat Rasool) said that "If Turkey looking for a real radical solution for the Kurdish issue in Turkey, in the first step it must release of Abdullah Ocalan.

Vice President of the Kurdistan Region (Kosrat Rasool) on his page on Facebook said that "If the Republic of Turkey looking for a real and radical solution to the Kurdish issue in the first step must release Abdullah Ocalan, and to recognize the right of Kurds."

Vice President of the Kurdistan region added that "Ankara government must listen to the demands of the armed forces and to negotiate with them for the purpose of solving problems".

So, now we have members from PDK and YNK calling for the release of Ocalan :O OH NOOOOO! They are only fighting for Ocalan , not Kurdistan! Oh NOOOOO!

Qonyeyi wrote:So, now we have members from PDK and YNK calling for the release of Ocalan :O OH NOOOOO! They are only fighting for Ocalan , not Kurdistan! Oh NOOOOO!

Yes they only demonstrate, for Öcalan, make hunger strikes, use only öcalan slogans and flags etc. Thats why you Apocis should not use this as a example for the PKK ideology. Look the PKK will die with Öcalan, they have no change to survive without him, even if you dont belive it you will see it. No need to discuss that, because the day will come.

This is a good thing.
This shows that Kurds are united no matter which political party you support .
And it will be for Kurds benefit if Ocalan is released because he is a major Kurdish political leader.

Cewlik wrote:

Qonyeyi wrote:So, now we have members from PDK and YNK calling for the release of Ocalan :O OH NOOOOO! They are only fighting for Ocalan , not Kurdistan! Oh NOOOOO!

Yes they only demonstrate, for Öcalan, make hunger strikes, use only öcalan slogans and flags etc. Thats why you Apocis should not use this as a example for the PKK ideology. Look the PKK will die with Öcalan, they have no change to survive without him, even if you dont belive it you will see it. No need to discuss that, because the day will come.

But why dont they say Kurds should have their rights as the first thing towards a solution? Why they say Ocalan should be freed as the first? :O Oh nooooo! They are Apocis! No, heval, maybe they have come to realise that they only solution to the Kurdish problem in Turkey goes through Ocalan. Now, not only BDP says this, EVEN KRG! Only tirsikcis like the HAK PAR loving Kemal Burkay fans and so called ''Islamic'' apoligists who just want to find faults at everyone do not realise this. But I do not care about those. They constitute a minority of Kurds and have no power or political will. Other than, of course, hanging around the internet chanting anti-PKK slogans.

Qonyeyi wrote:But why dont they say Kurds should have their rights as the first thing towards a solution? Why they say Ocalan should be freed as the first?

99,99% of what the KRG do has nothink to do with Öcalan, and because of one or two speaches you compare the KRG with the PKK.

Man you are 24h online and ruin this forum with your apoisim. There is no second where you dont give a answer, man calm down with your Apoisim. Öcalanlost his honor, he said that he was a half Turk and that he was sorry for what he did, he is lost, he will die in the prison and his system will die with him.

Cewlik wrote:

Qonyeyi wrote:But why dont they say Kurds should have their rights as the first thing towards a solution? Why they say Ocalan should be freed as the first?

99,99% of what the KRG do has nothink to do with Öcalan, and because of one or 2 speaches you compare the KRG with the PKK.

KRG ( YNK and PDK): The solution to the Kurdish problem in Turkey goes through the release of Ocalan

PKK/BDP/KCK: The solution to the Kurdish problem is Ocalan

Rhetorics are the same. I am sorry to disappoint you, but if you deny that Ocalan is the only solution to the Kurdish problem in NK, then you are an ignorant. Everyone, even EU, Nelson Mandela, Desmond Tutu, Sinn Fein, Gerry Adams, Different human rights groups in Turkey and Europe and USA have accepted this fact... And here comes little Cewlik, stubborn as a typical Kurd, and denies this fact HAHAHAH. Biraye delal, I can only laugh at you

I am sorry you lost your last stand point ( you probably was a huge KRG fan before Baxtiari and Kak Kosrat made these statements) of being pro-KRG. So what is next? HAK PAR? Kemal Burkay? Come on, enligthen us heval.

Yes, I am ruining it for YOU. Because you can no longer spread lies against PKK without anyone countering you. I know it is a sad reality for you that you finally have to admit your lies against PKK. But when the admins are not here to take care of a lier who spreads Turkish propaganda on these forums, then I have to be aware. I find it is my duty. So you be sure that I will expose every single one of your lies. I know it hurts, but did you really expect you could infect fellow Kurds on these boards with anti-Apoism and anti-PKKism without anyone countering you? You must be naive.

Qonyeyi wrote:but if you deny that Ocalan is the only solution to the Kurdish problem in NK

That is what a sect like communisim make with the brain of a person, this personality cult really thinks that a man who say that he was sorry for what he did and that he was a Turk and that he was used can be the only solution for a whole people.

Only Kurds are the solution to free Kurdistan, not a single person, especially not a leader who is in prison. leaders change from time to time, the only think that will exist for ever are the people.

I am not a a blind follower of a party or a leader, no party or leader can have the power for all the time, specially not Öcalan who will die in the prison, so he will reach not much from now on.
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Riiiight. So KRG and Desmond Tutu are communist sects? Should I consider these lies or just you being naive again?

Qonyeyi wrote:Yes, I am ruining it for YOU. Because you can no longer spread lies against PKK without anyone countering you. I know it is a sad reality for you that you finally have to admit your lies against PKK. But when the admins are not here to take care of a lier who spreads Turkish propaganda on these forums, then I have to be aware. I find it is my duty. So you be sure that I will expose every single one of your lies. I know it hurts, but did you really expect you could infect fellow Kurds on these boards with anti-Apoism and anti-PKKism without anyone countering you? You must be naive.

You are right, you win this Internet war in a Forum. You are 24h on for Öcalan and I am sure that he would be proud of you in his Prison.

But that you have the last word in an forum because you are 24 h online, dont change the fact that Öclan said that he was a Turk, that he is in Prision and that turkey can isolate him any time they want. Öcalan will not exist for ever one party or person can also not have the power for ever.

And Kosrat Rasool is not the whole KRG. He have his opinion and other have a other opinion, but all of them also know that Öcalan is lost and will not exist for ever.

this is the second PUK member saying that ..so something is cooking under table .. sounds like the strategic agreement between PDK and PUK is in the way to expire.. new middle east is reshaping ..PKK is gaining more power all over parts ..does that send message? ...

As I point out to people, for more than 30 years I have had Kurdish friends, and students, from all the different Kurdish regions

Over the years one thing has become OBVIOUS to me as I had students staying with me and visited a great many Kurdish people in their homes:

BEFORE Mr Ocalan started the PKK Kurds in Turkey did NOT know they were even Kurdish

I have watched as my Kurdish friends from north Kurdistan changed, they became PROUD to be KURDISH and Mr OCALAN is the reason, he inspired people, he told them to get an education, to learn about Kurdish history, he showed the Kurdish ladies that they are equal to men (something unheard of in the region), he should never have been arrested and deserves his freedom.

Perhaps some people on here come from different parts of Kurdistan and do not know how suppressed the Kurds in Turkey have been

I politely suggest that people read the history of the Kurds in north Kurdistan and learn how badly treated they have been by the Turkish regime then you would understand how important Mr Ocalan is

Anthea, very true! if it was not PKK Kurds would be forgotten in North and they would be mountain turks. Oclean was one of the many who scarified to spread the voice of resistance and rebirthing of Kurds.. lets not forget all PKK leaders and members before even PKK was announced.

When deputy ministers of the ruling government and the prime minister speaks, I am pretty sure you can cathegorize that as talking from KRG and not just one party. I am sorry Cewlik. KRG sees the solution in Ocalan. Go find another party They have ''failed'' you

Cewlik wrote: Öcalan will not exist for ever one party or person can also not have the power for ever.

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