Roj Bash Kurdistan

http://thekurdistani.com/news/content/view/1845/2/

Good Job to the Kurdish Peoples for These Protests.



Down With Denmark!

ya i am proud of the moslim world.
We are going the right way.
In Africa they kill eachother with Western guns, and Arab brains.
In China the moslims are to much ( like 1,5 billion isn't much) so they being killed without some one ever notice.
In Afhan they have no food. Shall i go on?

Hypocriets and idiots. They will always be the joke of the west.
I really hope Kurdistan will be not a MOSLIM country. It may contain moslims but not in the politieks.

Egid you are acting real ignorant, Kurdistan is and always will be an Muslim country, Kurdistan occupies the very heart of the Islamic World.

Im very happy to see those protests, this is how you know Muslims are working together.

Kurdistani are muslims, yezidis, christians, atheist, whatever they want and islamists should admit that : a non-muslim will never want to be ruled by sharia. Only a secular constitution could strenghen the unity of Kurdistanis.

Islam is a very unfortunate religion. Kurdish nationalists ahte Islam, Turkish nationalists hate Islam, Iranian nationalists hate Islam. Why don't everybody accept that Islam as it is, instead of hating it.

Kurdistani are muslims, yezidis, christians, atheist, whatever they want and islamists should admit that : a non-muslim will never want to be ruled by sharia. Only a secular constitution could strenghen the unity of Kurdistanis.

I think there is a difference between a muslim State and a muslim society. People can be very conservatively muslim but the state can be staunchly secular like Turkey which forbids wearing headscarves even on the street.

http://www.milliyet.com/2006/02/09/guncel/gun06.html

Piling wrote:Kurdistani are muslims, yezidis, christians, atheist, whatever they want and islamists should admit that : a non-muslim will never want to be ruled by sharia. Only a secular constitution could strenghen the unity of Kurdistanis.

As far as I know, kurds are one of the most conservativelu muslim people on earth. In Turkey, almost 90% of the religious people are kurdish. The biggest protests were organized by kurds while turks usually ignored the cartoons.

Because you know only Northern Kurds ! It depends on poverty and lack of education, and Northern Kurdistan is underdevelopped. In Western Kurdistan for example, Kurds are not at all conservative muslims, and concerning the diaspora, it is the same thing : lower classes are conservative islamists or PKK, but middle class reach the same more or less indifference concerning religion than Europeans.

Change the social and economical life of people, and you see quickly a change in ideas.

Moreover I never saw an aggressive and conservative islam in KUrdish areas, more in places like Sivas. Perhaps Sirnak is bad too, but elsewhere in Kurdistan you can find a place to drink quietly a beer or wine in restaurants ! (a good test, alcohol, for islamic mentality). Just Mardin is a hypocrit city : they sell alcohol in a discret and hidden way and people drink at home... But Mardin is more an arab city, Kurds are only in shantytowns arround...

Piling wrote:Because you know only Northern Kurds ! It depends on poverty and lack of education, and Northern Kurdistan is underdevelopped. In Western Kurdistan for example, Kurds are not at all conservative muslims, and concerning the diaspora, it is the same thing : lower classes are conservative islamists or PKK, but middle class reach the same more or less indifference concerning religion than Europeans.

Change the social and economical life of people, and you see quickly a change in ideas.

Moreover I never saw an aggressive and conservative islam in KUrdish areas, more in places like Sivas. Perhaps Sirnak is bad too, but elsewhere in Kurdistan you can find a place to drink quietly a beer or wine in restaurants ! (a good test, alcohol, for islamic mentality). Just Mardin is a hypocrit city : they sell alcohol in a discret and hidden way and people drink at home... But Mardin is more an arab city, Kurds are only in shantytowns arround...

Why did you say such a thing? I did not mean to offend kurds. Besides I know the correlation bewteen religious conservatism and social status.

That is Islam for you?
Protest a cartoon?
There are ton of things which are anti-religion or even anti Islam in the world. And the best thing they can think of is: Burn Danish flag?
This people are nothing but tv-brainwashed morons. Lets do something good for the Islam, we send food to Zimbabwe. But we have a flag to burn first!

@piskrt
Yes they are Muslim. I am also a Muslim, but I will guarantee you, I won't live in a Kurdistan ruled by morons who are going to tell me what I have to do as a GOOD Muslim.

As far as I know, Kurds are one of the most conservativelu muslim people on earth.

I don't know. Arabs are like 20% of the Muslims around the world. You should have to study the rest of the Muslims to come to a conclusion.

The biggest protests were organized by kurds while turks usually ignored the cartoons.

You see Turkish people are maybe smarter. Like we have no problems at all. They are mad because some ppl draw a picture 4000km away from them.
In East-Kurdistan ( iran) were 2 Kurds killed again and that is like 5 km away from them.

Hypocriets.

Hi Egid,

don't know. Arabs are like 20% of the Muslims around the world. You should have to study the rest of the Muslims to come to a conclusion.

Well, I guess people confuse the world arab with muslim. First of all, all arabs are not muslim. There are 20 million christian arabs living in Arabic coutries. For example Baath party was gound by a christian arab. secondly, arab culture does no mean muslim culture. every people, culture, has a islam of their own. arab islam does not necessarily mean true islam.

Yes they are Muslim. I am also a Muslim, but I will guarantee you, I won't live in a Kurdistan ruled by morons who are going to tell me what I have to do as a GOOD Muslim.

Yes! 100% agree with you. The reason why muslims are pushed around today is because of their moron leaders who blocked the way forward.

The biggest protests were organized by kurds while turks usually ignored the cartoons.

Bullshit. What about the demonstration in Konya where a woman journalist was stoned? Same in Istanbul! Sorry but Saadet is a turk party, not kurd.

And what are you talking about "headscarve is forbidden in the street"?? Have you ever lived in TUrkey???????????????????? It is not forbidden, only in schools and university, and in administrations for civil servants.

Kurdistan society is not that conservative honestly, maybe more in north than in south though...I remember getting drunk with some kurds for my first night in Duhok: great diner: Arak, Beer, Wine, cool music..very conservative indeed!

Bullshit. What about the demonstration in Konya where a woman journalist was stoned? Same in Istanbul! Sorry but Saadet is a turk party, not kurd.

I am talking about the number of protestors. The protests in Istanbul and Konya were small scaled. Besides Saadet Party is a muslim party not a turkish. Its ranks are full of kurds. It has got the most of its votes in southeastern part of Turkey.

And what are you talking about "headscarve is forbidden in the street"?? Have you ever lived in TUrkey???????????????????? It is not forbidden, only in schools and university, and in administrations for civil servants.

Have you looked at the link which I have written?
http://www.milliyet.com/2006/02/09/guncel/gun06.html

Kurdistan society is not that conservative honestly, maybe more in north than in south though...I remember getting drunk with some kurds for my first night in Duhok: great diner: Arak, Beer, Wine, cool music..very conservative indeed!

What does this have to do with conservatism? In case you dont know, the highest volume of raki which a alcohool is consumed in Konya which is known to be a conservative city. In western part of the Turkey there are tons of night clubs and usually they are packed with Turks. I go to night clubs too. But, this does not mean that I am an atheist.

Mosul you have opened three topics on the same issue , you could post that in the former topic, I call that propagenda, and If you open another topic for the same issue it will be deleted.

to see my views about these protests go to other 3 topics that this narrow minded muslem opened .
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