Turkey uses chemical weapon Kurds

[dyaoko]

acording to Denge Mezoptamia, on a body of a kurdish gerrila which was given to his familly , can be seen effects of chemical weapon , while his face can not be seen ....

and according to radio farda (american radio in farsi) thousands of the peopel in Amed are protesting , hundreds in protests been injuired,
the highest ranking Shit of Turkish Shit (army) has gone to Amed and said he will fight with terror and this is will cause a lot of Damage to "Peopel"

again acording to radio farda, Ankra have asked Jaffari to send Turkish troops to Iraq , and said if civil war happens , turkey will not be quiet and will send his troops to Iraq...


Why no body is talking about this ? all you are busy with cirticing PKK...

[piskrt]

acording to Denge Mezoptamia, on a body of a kurdish gerrila which was given to his familly , can be seen effects of chemical weapon , while his face can not be seen ....

Your sources are quite credible and believe me those kinds of demonstartions have no use except alienating ordinary kurds and causing more discrimination againist kurds. It is making things harder for Kurds not easier.

Besides, chemical weapons can not be used as a conventional weapon form if they were do not worry there would be no PKK guerillas left in the world.

[tomjez]

If there are huge demonstrations and repression in Amed, it will be on the news any moment. I'm waiting.

about turkish troops being sent to irak, it's the usual bullshit. Turkey will NEVER go to war, but they LOVE saying they will, just to prove themselves they are men

[tomjez]

Besides, chemical weapons can not be used as a conventional weapon form if they were do not worry there would be no PKK guerillas left in the world.

Quite agree, a little chemical bomb on PKK camp in Kandil and the problem is solved...

Turkish army has used chemical weapons in the past, against forests and fields in Kurdistan...the effects can still be seen today, some areas are total deserts...

[tomjez]

DIHA (PKK agency) is reporting about that indeed. I can't access the article (no way I'm giving login informations!) but I would like to know more...

[piskrt]

Turkish army has used chemical weapons in the past, against forests and fields in Kurdistan...the effects can still be seen today, some areas are total deserts...

Turkey has no capacity to manufacture chemical weapons and even it has I doubt it would ever use it before getting permission from US and EU. Also, as I have said, chemical wepons can not be manufactured in the form of conventional weapons. The only exception is uranium covered bulltets and so far only US and Israel have manufactured these bullets. Besides, these bullets also effect the solders who use them thus they do not have much advantage in a conventionl war.

[tomjez]

Pff turkey doesn't need to manufacture them, they bought the napalm to the U.S. And I doubt Turkey is waiting for any permission to perform war crimes.

I doubt it would ever use it before getting permission from US and EU.

And that's stupid, because the use of chemical weapons is banned in international legislation.

waiting for confirmation, here is a little stat' (official)

Aksu: More than 200 security officials killed in clashes with PKK:

In the last three years, 203 security officials have been killed and 1,325 terrorists caught in clashes with the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), the Anatolia news agency reported.

In a written statement issued in reply to True Path Party (DYP) Hatay deputy Mehmet Eraslan's question notion, Interior Minister Abdulkadir Aksu stated that 359 terrorists have been killed, 577 caught and 589 have given themselves up since 2003.

Aksu also gave figures for the number of terrorists -- 52 in 2003, 41 in 2004 and 23 in 2005 -- caught in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Greece, Azerbaijan and Ukraine who were surrendered to Turkey under the framework of international security and cooperation agreements.

[tomjez]

ok so for this chemical weapon use claim:

8 HPG members were indeed killed thursday and friday in Mardin province near the village of BELEN last week. I had seen the news from AFP and Reuters.

PKK supporters paraded with the coffins of the dead militants in the street of Diyarbakir. There were clash with the police (stoned) and 10 people, including policemen and journalists (???) were injured.

Honnestly I would like to access DIHA, but I can't

[piskrt]

And that's stupid, because the use of chemical weapons is banned in international legislation.

I guess that is right, but it has exception where using chemical weapons is legal.

waiting for confirmation, here is a little stat' (official)

What does that have to the with chemical weapons?

[tomjez]

I guess that is right, but it has exception where using chemical weapons is legal.

Oh I'd like to know more about these exceptions


What it has to see? We're talking about clashes between army and PKK, I think this is relevant. Plus this confirms my personal "killing rate" calculation:

6 PKK are needed to kill 1 turkish soldier. I'm sure they fight bravely, but I doubt they are very well equiped...

[piskrt]

Taka a look at this site:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... -legal.htm

[tomjez]

Yeah so incendiary weapon like Napalm are not forbidden...

By the way dyaoko, did the Radio said what kind of chemical it was? Gaz?

[Piling]

I saw all the moutains burnt between Agri and Dogubeyazit, even stones were black, no grass, no trees, ashes everywhere with what they could have burnt a so large surface ? I don't know but it was very important destructions, and Botan is like the moon now.

[dyaoko]

tom , my source is American Official Radio in Farsi , well America doenst have ball to publish that in English .

[tomjez]

Did the radio say "HPG said that Turkey used chemical weapons" or "turkey used chemical weapons". Cause it's not exactly the says.

Same difference in "Ocalan says he is the greatest philosopher of all times" and "Ocalan is the greatest philosopher of all times"