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PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:58 am

ALABJA, Iraq, March 16, 2006 (AFP) - 09h13 - A 14-year-old boy was killed and six demonstrators injured when security forces Thursday fired into a crowd of several thousand Kurds rioting in Halabja on the anniversary of Saddam Hussein's gas attack on the Kurdish Iraqi town, an AFP reporter said.


This and the stupid support of the ministre of religion to islamists in Silêmanî makes me think that perhaps the end of PUK governement in Silêmanî could be a nice thing... The team is timeworn. I know that KDP are not angels, but I never heard that they shot people during a demonstration and it seemed that it is not the first time.
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:34 pm

Halabja memorial destroyed

The Memorials and the Halabja Museum have been totally destroyed by rioters from Slemani universty, all of the photographs and witness testimonies have been burned and the charity boxes "liberated".

A local journalist working for Reuters said he saw police and Kurdish Peshmerga militiamen fire warning shots to disperse the protesters as they stormed the one-storey, circular museum that serves as a potent reminder of the 1988 attack.

When Saed tried to placate the crowd, people grew angrier and stormed into the museum, setting fires that destroyed displays reconstructing the gas attack, photographs of the victims and glass cases containing the clothes of some of the dead.

Three local journalists working for Reuters saw the building gutted by fire.

Today 15 years of work in cataloging the genocidal anfal campaign has been lost, Both sides share the blame, but is this the work of Kurds, to shred the clothes of the dead?
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:51 pm

Vladimir wrote:Today 15 years of work in cataloging the genocidal anfal campaign has been lost,

if that be true, it is very very sad , very very sad... I hope it doenst be true
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PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:56 pm

Destroying works and archives is very stupid if that is true.

I change my mind : Nuke them !
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:37 am

http://www.azady.nl/news.php?readmore=2213

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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:47 am

it is very sad that kurds are rioting against kurds...these PUK peshmergas are Shading Peshmerga's name ... I wish they could change their name from Peshmerga to another thing... peshmerga is a holly name to fight with enemies not a "tool to opress riots" and they must learn some new ways of controlling riots.... today we see in Paris there are riots... but noboby was killed because they know how to control a crowd.

and about the protestors i wonder if they are really student... how a student can destroy a national archive.... thats a very big crime and they are stupid that they attack Halabcha Victims... if that moemorial was made by PUK that deosnt mean it doenst belong to kurds...

both side acted uncivilzed
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:22 am

look at this funny news on PUKmedia.com
a terrorist was arrested in halabcha

he came from iran and he belongs to ansar-al-sunna , he conffesed that he wanted to exlode himself among crowded ppl , he also confessed another terrorists has also sneaked to halbcha.

mamosta shaho asked ppl to be carefull and dont stay in crowded places....

http://pukmedia.com/farsi%20news/16-3/news12.html
isnt this news a fake one ,to scary ppl so they stop protest ?

another funny news is PUKmedia published a news that said in the protests 4 were injuried and one became "Shahid" !
what the hell "shahid" means here?

PUK is using names as a tool, soon these names will loose their meaning... I worry 10 years later, ppl will hate peshmerga name, shahid name... they shouldnt use these names as a tool to suppress ppl.

I remember in Iran, Basij was a holly name...infact basijs saved iran from saddam's invading...but after the war, they still used Basij as a tool to suppress iranian boy and girls... (for things like hejab , listening music...) now after years...basij has a bad meaning in ppl's mind , and it doenst seem holly at all.
I can see the same fate for peshmerga word.
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:42 am

"This is a repeat of the Halabja tragedy," said Mariwan Halabjaee, one of the organisers. "What police and security have done is the same as the Baathists."

The same writer of the "anti-Islam" book?
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:41 am

Yes it is...

Which is sad with comparing PUK to Baath, is that it minimizes the crimes of Baath party.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:40 am

Just one dead in a such demonstration ? Could you imagine the number of victims if the same people would have made the same riot under Saddam's rule ? :roll: Stupid ! We don't know even if the boy had been killed by accident or not.
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:12 am

it seems there is no Single Wise Human in South Kurdistan... poh... :? everybody is extremly disapointing
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:04 pm

Peyamner , they continue arresting ppl in halbcha...
2 men were arrested today in their car.

destgîrkirdinî hawwilatiyanî helebce berdewame
[19:06 , 18 Mar 2006]
PNA – dawbeduway xopêşandinekey roy pênc şemmey rabirduwî hawwilatiyanî helebce u destgîrkirdiniyan lelayen hêzî asayşewe, emroş dû hawwilatî dîkey ew şare destgîrkiran.
be guwêrey hewalî peyamnêrman le helebce, nîweroy emro (şemme) le bazgey \\\\\\"zemeqî\\\\\\" helebce, hawwilatî \\\\\\"bhemen kemal\\\\\\" ke le naw otombêlekeyda bû, lelayen asayşewe destgîrkira u destî beser otombêlekeyda gîra.
herwhea katjmêr 6î êwarey emro (şemme) hawwilatî \\\\\\"'usman hacî rewuf\\\\\\" ke xawen pêşangay qenefeye le helebce u awarey geraweye, lelayen hêzekanî asayşewe destgîr kira
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:43 am

According to a PUK official 70 people were arrested.
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PostAuthor: Egid » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:06 am

it was a real sad day.
Very angry but also understandable feelings about this.
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:20 pm

update : ppl in halbcha protested against offending to Halabcha Moment ,

"I lost 6 of my familiy in halbcha genocide, and I dont want those protestors to offend to shahids in my name..."
peyamner also said some students didnt attend in the classes , because they were afraid to be arressted.

danîştwanî şaru şaroçkekanî dewruberî helebce sûtandinî mînomêntî şheydaniyan mehkum kird
[15:35 , 20 Mar 2006]
PNA - duway xopêşandinekey şaroçkey helebce le yadî kîmiya barankirdinî ew şaroçkeye u sûtandinî mînomêntî şheydan, emro \\\\\\"'umer fetah\\\\\\" serokî encûmenî wezîranî îdarey slêmanî geyşte şaroçkey helebce u sebaret bebarudoxî nawçeke qsey bo hawlatiyan kird.
beguwêrey hewalî peyamnêrman le helebce, hawkat xelkêkî zor le danîştwanî şarî slêmanî u şaroçkekanî seyd sadq u xurmal u biyare u raniye u qeladzê u kfrî u kelar u çend şuwênêkî dîke emro geyştine şaroçkey helebce u le rêpêwanêkda sûtandinî mînomêntî şheydanî helebceyan mehkum kird.
lembareyewe \\\\\\"reşîd îbiraeym mhemmed\\\\\\" danîştuwî helebce be \\\\\\"peyamnêr\\\\\\"î rageyand: min wek danîştuwiyekî helebcey şheyd u xawenî 6 şheydî karesatî kîmiya baraneke, be eyç cor u şêweyek legel ewedanîm ke xelkî şar u şuwênekanî dîke be nawî ême narezayî derbibrn u rêpêwan encambiden.
duway rojî xopêşandaneke 120 qutabî le peymangay pêgeyandinî mamostayan le şaroçkey helebce, le ber metirsî destgîrkirdiniyan neyan uwêrawe bigerêninewe peymanga u berdhawm bin le dewamî fermî xoyan.
herwhea emro lawêk benawî \\\\\\"'edalet deruwêş fetah\\\\\\" danîştuwî helebce le layen asayş destgîr kirawe u \\\\\\"arî hsên\\\\\\" u \\\\\\"uşiyar 'ebas\\\\\\" behoy metirsî destgîrkirdiniyan le layen asayşewe xoyan le baregayekda heşardawe.
şayanî base danîştwanî şaroçkey helebce behoy na aramî u mehkum kirdinî em kirdewane agirî newrozî emsal nakenewe


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