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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:56 pm

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Amidst the week-long violent demonstrations that crippled Diyarbakir and neighboring cities, pro-Kurdish Democratic Society Party (DTP) leader Ahmet Turk on Sunday condemned the incidents and also emphasized the need for tolerance towards democratic protests.

Speaking in a televised interview Turk said that they worked to end the violent clashes and are determined to find permanent solutions to the problems people in the southeast have been facing for decades.

"I strongly condemn the destruction of banks and attacks on business premises," he said, underlining that dissatisfaction should be demonstrated within the limits of the law. He also added that he can't approve of police officers firing on children throwing stones, urging more tolerance.

He also said that they're ready for dialogue with the government authorities to resolve the problems but added that he has yet to hear from Interior Minister Abdulkadir Aksu despite having requested a meeting with him ten times. Turk requested a meeting with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan during the interview.

He also criticized Erdogan for a comment he made related to the death of a six-year-old child during the demonstrations, accusing parents of not caring for their children. Turk said that the premier should have expressed his worry and asked whether the child is a Turkish citizen.

Turk reiterated his party's calls for state projects for economic and social improvements in the region and said Turks and Kurds should live together within the concept of a unitarian state.

He also recalled state policies of old towards the region, calling them oppressive, and said that it's impossible to reach a solution through repressive and violent means. "People in the region, who lived under emergency rule for years, think that the state regards them as 'so-called' citizens,'" said Turk, referring to a controversial comment from the General Staff last year that ignited a debate in the political arena and bothered the Kurds.

Arabaslik: DTP punishes provincial head who allegedly provoked public

Turk said his party has started disciplinary action against Murat Avci, the head of the DTP's Siirt office, for his remarks and insistence that tradesmen in the city keep their shops closed.

The DTP's Batman provincial chair was released from custody yesterday on his own recognizance.

He also backed Diyarbakir Mayor Osman Baydemir, who's facing a probe for allegedly supporting the demonstrations. "A couple of words were picked from a whole speech made by a mayor and he was charged with encouraging provocateurs," he said.

Turk also criticized the state's behavior towards DTP provincial heads, comparing it to the arrest of deputies of the now defunct pro-Kurdish Party for Democracy (DEP) in the '90s. He claimed that certain circles within the state are trying to have mayors in the region suspended.

Asked about controversial Danish-based pro-terrorist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) Roj TV, Turk replied the channel meets a need that hasn't been filled by state TV, despite all calls. "While we don't approve of Roj-TV, it satisfies the needs of Kurdish-speaking people," he said, adding that the state's rules for broadcasts in Kurdish have been interpreted as insult to the Kurds since they only permit 15-minute broadcasts with no up-to-date news coverage.

Source: TheNewAnatolian
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:22 pm

That's getting damn interesting

Turk said his party has started disciplinary action against Murat Avci, the head of the DTP's Siirt office, for his remarks and insistence that tradesmen in the city keep their shops closed.



Ahmet Turk opposes direct orders from PKK. That's really courageous...

Turk and Baydemir are very wise, these are really the kind of men kurds should follow.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:24 pm

Tükr is a former mp of HEP, he was in politics before Öcalan, then, and I don't think he likes the crazy guru a lot.

But Baydemir could be really in trouble if Öcalan is becoming jealous of him. Perhaps a new "flag incident" could happen to him also ? :?
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:26 pm

they must speak loud, they must continue what they're doing, I'm totally supporting them. little hope...welcomed!
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PostAuthor: zurderer » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:27 pm

Turk should change his surname, he is a bad example for asimilation process. 8)

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:28 pm

lol clearly

but kurds were forcebly given turkish name like "turkoglu" "turk" "öztürk" in replacement of their tribe names...they did not chose!
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:29 pm

I just imagine the confusion for poor western journalist if he becomes a leading figure of kurds

Ahmet Turk, representant of the nothernkurds!!!

LOL poor guys, they're already lost between HEP DEP DEHAP HADEP DTP...:)
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PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:33 pm

LOL poor guys, they're already lost between HEP DEP DEHAP HADEP DTP..


No more than with PKK aka KADEK aka KONGRA GEL aka PKK, etc. :lol:
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PostAuthor: zurderer » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:41 pm

but kurds were forcebly given turkish name like "turkoglu" "turk" "öztürk" in replacement of their tribe names...they did not chose!


I agree, but why didnt he change his name, weird guy.

Maybe he think, because of his surname, ultra-nationalist will not swear him?

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PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:48 pm

Perhaps because it is forbidden ? It is not so easy to give a Kurdish first name for a baby nowadays, then a name... But it depends on the good will of local authorities, and you see the paranoïa of stupid officials who refused only the simple name Newroz just because W is not Turkish.... What about WC, then ? :lol: and I suppose that a real Turkish patriot should change all url sites as http://vvv... etc.
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PostAuthor: zurderer » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:52 pm

Pilling do you use arabic alphabet at your id?

Sometimes, bashing Turkey lead you absurdity.

At least he could change his name more neutral one.

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:05 pm

Arab is not an original culture of France...but anyway other cultures are banned on ID as well in France, my familiy name has bee francised, some other people got their name translated....or deformed!

But yeah, I can totally imagine a turkish citizen going to administration

"HI I would like to change my family name, I don't like it"

"What is it"

"TURK"

"Why don't you like it?"

"BECAUSE I'M A KURD"

Yeah clearly, it would have been so easy to do :lol: :lol:
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PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:14 pm

Pilling do you use arabic alphabet at your id?


It is not forbidden to put pictures or poster in Arabic on the walls of French cities, we tolerate in Paris even Turkish language on our walls... :)
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PostAuthor: zurderer » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:17 pm

I am not talking about kurdish names, I am talking about w,q,x.

We have not these at our alphabet, so we cannot use this words at formal papers. do turk at germany can use ş or ö?

Ofcourse changing alphabet is another thing.


But yeah, I can totally imagine a turkish citizen going to administration

"HI I would like to change my family name, I don't like it"

"What is it"

"TURK"

"Why don't you like it?"


Well I dont think at least that "TURK" afraid to change his name :)

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PostAuthor: zurderer » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:20 pm

It is not forbidden to put pictures or poster in Arabic on the walls of French cities, we tolerate in Paris even Turkish language on our walls...


I am sure you can find a lot x q or w in Turkey, but not formal paper. Like any country.

Atleast our pm dont become angry because someone talked english:)

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