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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:19 pm

Piling wrote:There are Arab Yezidis of course, even if they are a minority. For example, both villages of Beshiqe-Behzani (a village of qewels), near of Mosul, are inhabitued by Arab speakers. And in Lalesh, 3 weeks ago, I saw myself Arab women who did not speak nor understand Kurdish and Kurdish Yezidis explained it without being offended by the fact. :)

Who’re you to believe you? :lol:

Never heard such a propaganda. Or you’re a dirty Turks or Arabs want to become Yezidi. They call them Yezidi, as if I call me by now follower of Shintoism or Buddhism. Those Arabs doesn’t realise that for being Yezidi you MUST be Kurdish. If Arabs really say this, they are even more stupid than I though. 50 years ago they called us devil-worshippers and now they’re same as Kurds.....

Everybody lives with Yezidi. In Southern Kurdistan; Turkmen, Assyrians, Arabs live together with Yezidi Kurds. If you live with us in 1 village it doesn’t make same as us.

If she is a Yezidi. She must have A yezidi father and Yezidi mother. If she has Yezidi mother and father, she must also have other Yezidi relatives. All her relatives must be Yezidis, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, nephews, cousins. She must show at leats 1000 relative member to her who are also Yezidi.

I can show you at leats 5000 relatives who´re Yezidi.

I know everybody wants to become a Kurd, especially a Yezidi Kurd.

Maybe after some thousands of years some people can become Kurds but never Yezidi.

We’re strongest people on earth, we’re invincible! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:31 pm

Kurds want only their own land back. not extra land like some barbaric nations as Turkish and Arabic. what belongs to others belongs to others. We´re people with good manners and are not land stealers.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:37 pm

Tirigan, I wonder if you ever went in Lalesh, in Sheikhan region, and if you ever talked with people there. In fact you seem to know nothing of your"homeland". Did you once see it in reality ?
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:39 pm

Piling wrote:Tirigan, I wonder if you ever went in Lalesh, in Sheikhan region, and if you ever talked with people there. In fact you seem to know nothing of your"homeland". Did you once see it in reality ?

Yes... have you ever met a Yezidi?

Have you ever been in Shangar, Qamishlo and some regions in Northern Kurdistan, other dominant places of Yezidi
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:50 pm

In Georgia, family of my mother (her father) lived in the village with Greeks (Greek village). My fathers family (his mother) lived with Armenians. We lived in Tbilisi with Georgians. That doesn’t mean Greeks, Georgians and Armenians are also Yezidi…

That’s ridiculous.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:08 pm

I don't talk about Muslim neighbours, Arab or not. I talk about Arab-speakers Yezidis. For example the people of Beshiqe-Behzani. Did you ever hear of them ? Did you ever see these people in Lalesh ?

And yeah, I know Yezidis from Jezireh Botan, and in Western and Northern Kurdistan, and in Southern also. And in Lalesh which is the heart of Yezidis origins, and where they don't seem so nationalists than religious. For a Kurdish speaker Yezidis could not marry a non-Yezidi, Kurd or not, while he could marry an Arab speaker Yezidi, if they belong to the same cast.

Concerning Georgian Yezidis, I just met the director of the Kurdish institute of Montreal and his wife.
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:21 pm

My Russian is much better than my Kurmanji. Am I a Russian? And does this fact makes Russian people Yezidi?

Of course I know this village. Yezidi who live there are all pure Kurds. Even if they speak only Arabic, Turkish or Chinese. They'are all pure Yezidi Kurds.
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:29 pm

Piling wrote:I don't talk about Muslim neighbours, Arab or not. I talk about Arab-speakers Yezidis. For example the people of Beshiqe-Behzani. Did you ever hear of them ? Did you ever see these people in Lalesh ?

And yeah, I know Yezidis from Jezireh Botan, and in Western and Northern Kurdistan, and in Southern also. And in Lalesh which is the heart of Yezidis origins, and where they don't seem so nationalists than religious. For a Kurdish speaker Yezidis could not marry a non-Yezidi, Kurd or not, while he could marry an Arab speaker Yezidi, if they belong to the same cast.

Concerning Georgian Yezidis, I just met the director of the Kurdish institute of Montreal and his wife.

I met a lot of people who say they’re Yezidi from Western- and Southern Kurdistan and they turned out not being Yezidi. A lot of people in Europe call themselves Yezidi, because it was easier and faster to get European papers.

But when I/we asked more questions about their tribe, sheiks, pirs (names of their sheiks pirs etc.) and other religious stuff they couldn’t give us a normal answer. A real Yezidi Kurd can see who is Yezidi and who is not.

Here in Europe are a lot of liars (sonsofthebitch) who live in Europe under false identity, Yezidi identity.
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:12 pm

Tirigan wrote:Kurds want only their own land back. not extra land like some barbaric nations as Turkish and Arabic. what belongs to others belongs to others. We´re people with good manners and are not land stealers.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:54 pm

Here in Europe are a lot of liars (sonsofthebitch) who live in Europe under false identity, Yezidi identity.


I talked about 2 villages in "Yezidiland", 2 villages of QEWELS, absolutely well-known by all the Yezidis !
And the Arab women I saw in Lalesh were occupied to wash dishes in the kitchen of Sheikh Adi's Temple. So I suppose they were Yezidis, and in fact other Kurdish Yezidis confirmed that.
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:01 pm

You’re not only a liar but you’re also [Edit: vulgare language]. Only real [Edit: vulgare language] can lie like this.

1. how do you know she was Arab and not just an Yezidi Kurd who doesn’t speak Kurdish.
2. how do I know what you saw is true. I don’t like games like: “I see what you don’t see”.

But hey, It's okay with me. You can say and claim whatever you want.

[Edit: Tirigan, everybody is welcome to this forum. This means that nobody should feel offended by bad language or false accusations. Please keep your posts constructive and do not resort to swearing! You, like anybody else, will have to follow the rules of this forum, which means you can not call people "slut" or "whore". Please be nice!]
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:09 pm

What you’re saying is just impossible. Like saying earth is not round but quadrilateral. or like sun is green and not yellow.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:20 am

Then the proof is made : you never went to Lalesh nor in Sheikhan area.
(or you were there, you are absolutely deaf or unable to speak Kurdish to dinstinguish Arab and Kurdish :lol: )
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PostAuthor: Amanc » Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:57 pm

Tirigan I have met Yezidis from Beshiqe&Behzani 2 years ago myself, so chill! And yes they do speak arabic and they are proud of it. By the way many of them were loyal bath members, I am not saying this to bug you, it is true. I have been to Lalesh, too.

So please stop using bad language and stop saying things like "We’re strongest people on earth, we’re invincible!" We are all human beings, you are not better than anybody else, and nobody is better than you.
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:13 pm

Yezidi were pro-Bath to survive. Look what happened to Muslim Kurds. If Yezidi supported their Muslim Brothers, Sadam would destroyed them. That’s why they were not anti-Sadam, only for surviving.

Yezidism is exclusive Kurdish religion. It was so for many millennia adnd it will be so for ever.

A lot Yezidi in Georgia only speak Georgian, sing only in Georgian language. But they’re still pure Yezidi Kurds

I’M Yezidi! According you I don’t know nothing about myself :?: :roll:
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