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Left-Center-Right! What are you?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:47 am
Author: Dilsad
Hey what side of the spectrum are you all?

I'm wondering where we all are....

I see myself in the Leftist-socialist :)

D

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:37 pm
Author: Delal
I'm a moderate, so center, but that is nothing like the current democratic party in the USA...they have moved so left of center lately that they don't speak for the majority of Americans anymore.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:51 pm
Author: pepula
please the americans are not democratic. the republicans in power are very right wing indeed. i think the Uk is a better democratic example.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:31 pm
Author: Diri
Dilshad - Do I have your permission to add another poll option?

:)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:49 pm
Author: kardox
dilsad , im not sure that usa is in the center , but anyways i voted for center ;) maybe alittel bit right to center would have been better

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:14 am
Author: ellinas
as well my option:

democratic = republic (like this, i can't explain)

all republics like whole europe have 3 sides mostly.

right , center , left

left = believe that we must all same ( crazy thing! that is impossible, cuz if i accept that. that mean cuz you have the same mind with me, same eyes same home, same gf. same all ) but be republic coutries, whater be in country after elektion it doesn't matter. they can change only some rules, AND NOT to turn a whole country. they danger change to communist who means all the money is the country. but is the country fall all your life is shash. (too danger side. the idea is many good, but the practical way NO)

center = people that believe that all we are same at kind and people who love them countries ( mostly of people and ligical ) they keep left and right to the center, like mix of ideas) that side is very slow to do moves.

right = people love only them countries and they not accept into country foreign people ( by a side is ok to not accept foreign people into them countries, is them choices. but that turn to bad question at years and if we not accept foreign. who will help our brothers, and what happen if we have the same problem to have no were to go. also in politics they can turn only the money to most powers. for strangers, they can turn to monarchy (never happen this at all till today).


by ur asnwers of this topic, i can believe to the REPUBLIC OF KURDISTAN. That will be to look all the other nations in middle east. and if will come absolutly republic, i am sure that maybe will late, but after 80 -150 years or more the Kurdistan will be the shine one of middle east and big power.
maybe many bad happen to come this day as happen to most countries, but i am sure the soul of kurds never will be lost. maybe at start kurdistan will be down cuz other nations make money for it, but as the kurdish educate the kurdish language and up them minds, many great things they will do. but no not you dude/dudette, ur kinds and more will do or see all that. :-) but you will close your eyes happily for the IDEA you think whole life.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:45 am
Author: Dilsad
Hi Diri,

YES please add as many option as you'd like...same for everyone else...
I added another option but for some reason it did not register...and I was too lazy to re-do it :)

I wanted to add: far right wing (nationalist)

D.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:50 am
Author: Diri
Right... THAT was the one was gonna add ;)

Even though I put it under "far right" I don't see it as a "far right" stance... I rather think it is neutral... Because I feel that it in our case -where we don't have a country - we are not negatively Nationalist... We need to be in order to ever have a country where the left, center and right can exist as legal parties...

So I think to opt for the "Far right (Nationalist)" option would mean that you don't care what form of policy is persued as long as it includes a nationalist outlook...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:53 am
Author: Dilsad
How would you consider the PKK then?
Were'nt they nationalist (ultra) and Leftist?

D.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:56 am
Author: Diri
No... They aren't... APO is saying "A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC"... That isn't nationalist... Besides he has called himself a Turk one time too many to be a nationalist... IF he were he would have taken other actions and not been so cautious about his words about Kurds and Kurdistan... PKK was nationalist at the begining - and that was what got people interested in it... But now it isn't nationalist...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:24 am
Author: Dilsad
Hi there,

yeah, I should have specified it...what do you think about the PKK 10years ago...
they were ultra nationalist and leftist...weren't they?

D....

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:34 am
Author: ellinas
NOTE:

as well PKK, they love them country.

to love your country is not means that you are nationalism.

the nationalism by politics means that someone who not accept other nations etc.

but in real the nationalism is someone who love him country but have no problem with other nations. grrr... i can't explain in english!

whatever. the option by my mind is that to love your country, to hate turks and you will be ok with all other nations :-) hehe!

whats this? right-center-left? all together hehe. is many thinks in everyone's head!

the important is the results off and NOT the side.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:52 am
Author: Diri
Sure they were... but we are talking about today and yesterday... not ten years ago... Things change in ten years...

The ultimate point is: KURDISTAN DOESN'T NEED COMMUNISM, CAPITALISM, SOCIALISM, MARXISM, LIBERALISM, CONSERVATISM, LABOURISM, ISLAMISM, SECULARISM OR ANY OTHER "ISM-IDEOLOGY"... EXCEPT "NATIONALISM"... You can't build a house only with rocks... That house will be cold in winter and hot in summer... You need to have a strong national feeling for Kurdistan to become reality - as the ultimate goal should be to liberate Kurdistan from the occupiers...