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Jews Security Institute to help Turkey in Killing kurds !

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:55 am
Author: dyaoko
I have nothing to say just read this news... it so sos os sad
The following article was published by "The Jewish Institute for National Security" Please mind that the offensive words are not KBU's Words :
On August 4, 2005, JINSA convened a panel of experts to discuss what role the U.S. can and should play in the battle against the resurgent Kurdish terrorist organization known as the PKK (Partiya Karkerên Kurdistan). Taking place at JINSA’s Washington, D.C. offices, the panel also considered America’s role in support of Turkey’s battle against the PKK within its own borders. The timing of the JINSA panel discussion importantly coincided with the second trilateral meeting to discuss the PKK held between Turkish, American and Iraqi officials this week in Washington D.C.


The PKK panel. From left to right: Michael Rubin, Alan Makovsky and Rear Admiral John Sigler, USN (ret.).

The panel, moderated by Alan Makovsky (House International Relations Committee; former Director, Turkish Research Program at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy), was comprised of Michael Rubin (American Enterprise Institute; former Political Adviser, Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad) and Rear Admiral John Sigler, USN (ret.) (participant of the 2004 JINSA Flag & General Officers Trip to Turkey; former Plans and Policy Officer for the United States Central Command).

JINSA’s Executive Director, Tom Neumann, welcomed the guests and reiterated JINSA’s long-standing view that the PKK is a terrorist organization, no different than al-Qaeda, Hamas or Hizballah.

The panelists concurred that the U.S. must take action against the PKK for both strategic and moral reasons. While R. Adm. Sigler focused on the military aspects of actions taken against the PKK, Dr. Rubin discussed the political and strategic implications of these policies within the context of the global war on terrorism.

A detailed write-up of this JINSA panel will be available soon on the JINSA website.

See the picture and links in KBU NEWS:

http://northerniraq.info/news/index.php ... =1#more757


..look at that Michael Rubin 's face,,,,how cursd he is...he is like a dirty beast, belive me, I swear to god , the first tiem I saw him...I felt evil in his body...even I hadnt still read his artilce agianst kurds., !

NOW DEAR JEWS KILL KURDS ! THANK YOU

I think KBU forum should open a new room instead of "freindship with Jews" ...our new room should be called "freindship with palestine"

these jews deserve no Freindship they better lick their turks ass...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:11 am
Author: dyaoko
look at theri cursed site ...http://www.jinsa.org/member/member.html

they ask ppl to donate them.... sure I will donate them...but I will donate them 0.13 Cents ,,,I hope that 13 Cents cause Bad luck for them...!

God Damn The Jewish Institute for National Security
God Damn The Jewish Institute for National Security
God Damn The Jewish Institute for National Security

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:15 am
Author: dyaoko
I wish Emmunah as a Jews could tell us her idea about these mother fuckers .... "The Jewish Institute for National Security"


I want to join JINSA and become an integral part of its efforts to enhance U.S. national security, strengthen U.S.-Israel strategic cooperation and foster relations and security cooperation with other vital allies.

TURKEY IS VITAL ALLYES.....so who are the KURDS ?? ...yeah Kurds are not vial allies...theya re just some whores to be used every often by these jews and americans....

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:19 am
Author: dyaoko
I just foudn this in their Site
Turkey Visited By JINSA Delegation
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American commitments for arms transfers - The United States has failed to provide Turkey with needed defense equipment, seriously weakening American credibility with a vital ally. In the case of three surplus FFG-7 frigates, delayed for more than a year, President Clinton gave public commitments that the long promised tra....read more here

...
it continues
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Cooperation with Israel - The relationship in the military sphere is proceeding apace with Turkey pleased. Despite political costs for associating with Israel, such cooperation is viewed by the Turkish military as a benefit to both countries in increasing combat effectiveness. The Turkish military would like to see more public U.S. support for the Turkey-Israel relationship. Expanded cooperative military agreements seem likely to be announced in the wake of Turkish Chief of Staff Gen. Ismail Karadayi's scheduled mid-February 1997 visit to Israel. In the economic sphere, a trade agreement between Turkey and Israel—signed March 1996 effective March 1997—will open trade and keep it normalized and standardized. The agreement deals with property rights, anti-dumping, and government involvement in trade.


Read more in their Site
http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articles.html/function/view/categoryid/122/documentid/305/history/3,2359,650,122,305
I found another OFFENSIVE article in their site against kurds
it has put a a bad picture of kurds in that article.
http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articles.html/function/view/categoryid/107/documentid/640/history/3,2359,947,653,107,640
...I think as they are a Secruty Fucking house ,they will trace their stats , to see who has linked to their site .and guess what !
they will add our stie to terrorsit sites.... but these mother fuckers dont know we has added a section to make freindship with Jews....

they will soon write a report to USA

"AMERICA DIDNT GIVE ENOGUH TOOLS TO TURKISH HACKERS , TO HACK KBU FORUM..."

you know recently Isareli hackers has been attacking to kurdish sites
read this news...Israelis hack kerkuk-kurdistan site !
http://northerniraq.info/news/index.php ... =1#more726

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:03 am
Author: Mosul
no dyako, lots of jews are good people, its israel that is not our friend. that is why i told diri that that picture he put up is wrong.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:00 am
Author: heval
My friend, you will always find good Jews, bad Jews, good Palestinians, bad Palestinians, even good Turks, bad Turks, and good Kurds, bad Kurds.

You cannot expect all of them to be good, just like you shouldn't say all of them are bad. Individual people are all different. Let's not think like how the enemy thinks.

I know we often generalize and it is not the greatest thing to do but I guess it is in human nature. However, if you are considering changing the names of any of those discussion rooms, you should remove all names and just leave it with "Friends of the Kurds".

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:43 pm
Author: dyaoko
dear friends ! it is not something like PLAYING...the NATIONAL JEW SECURITY ! it is THE "NATIONAL "JEW SECURITY ...

means it is their NATIONAL VIEW ...the NATIONAL JEWS ORGNAZIATION are offending to KURDs and do their best to give as muich as possible things to kill kurds....


well ...I dont say there are not good jews...sure there are...emmunah is among the good jews...but the truth is , it is their NATIONAL BENEFIT to kill kurds ! they are even more ANTi-Northern Kurd than Turks themself...

just read articles on that site....

again I repeat , it is not just 2-3 Jew Writer or something...they are LEADERS of JEW NATIONAL SECRUTIY....

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:17 pm
Author: Sir Don DeCarleone
Kurd should realize that our real enemies are USA, UK, & the savage West. Israelis are lectured by these bastards. We are determined to kill every enemy of Kurd & Kurdistan. Bush, you , your bible & my ass, bastard queer. :D :D

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:42 pm
Author: Diri
As moderator I will again make people aware of what they write. These are not like everyday words, where I can/he can/she can see that you/he/she is "just saying something". Please refrain from using bad language - in this case I am reffering to : "your bible & my ass, bastard queer"

This is intolerant, prejudice and disrespectful of the Holy Bible... Please remember that we are not our enemies...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:35 pm
Author: dyaoko
to moderator, peopel can say their idea about every relligion freely !
the bad language is not allowed when it is about none-sense personal aruges!

let peopel have thier own idea about relligoin and keep your own idea .

by the way ,our israeli friends has claim KURDS hate PKK !
read here
http://www.zaman.com/?bl=international&alt=&hn=22689
The terrorist organization the PKK, which is a very small group, did not represent Iraqi Kurds and almost anyone in Iraq is opposed to the PKK, added Rubin, mentioning he was a supporter of forming a federal structure in Iraq. “The PKK serves the interests of those opposing a federal system in Iraq.”

Terrorism should be solved not in years, but in months


The PKK’s opening of an office in Kerkuk (Kirkuk) is a decision that Iraq has to take; however, it may end with dire consequences, Rubin warned.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:02 pm
Author: heval
Diri wrote:As moderator I will again make people aware of what they write. These are not like everyday words, where I can/he can/she can see that you/he/she is "just saying something". Please refrain from using bad language - in this case I am reffering to : "your bible & my ass, bastard queer"

This is intolerant, prejudice and disrespectful of the Holy Bible... Please remember that we are not our enemies...


I agree. Just refrain from using those disrespectful terms.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:07 pm
Author: Vladimir
Rubbin is a American not Israeli right?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:10 am
Author: cheryl
JINSA is an american organization which supports the state department and american foreign policy. it is no surprise to me that they are engaged in a defense of kemalism since this has been american policy since the founding of the kemalist state.

heval and i know a kurdish activist in san francisco who was verbally attacked by an aid to congressman tom lantos when he brought up the subject of kurds in turkish-occupied kurdistan.

heval and i also know a kurdish activist in nyc who received a similar response from a certain member of the pentagon over the same subject.

my point is that it is hopeless to appeal to the top. i believe that the best efforts are spent at the grassroots level, targetting the people who keep all these other people in power.

certainly the state of israel acts in its own national interests. so does turkey and so does the us. it is the unfortunate nature of international politics. one day, inshallah, an independent kurdistan will also be acting in its own national interests.

however, for the time being, education of the grassroots is, in my opinion, the best option for kurdish activism.

i have already started this and have had some excellent response from the jews that i have dealt with.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:13 am
Author: cheryl
Vladimir wrote:Rubbin is a American not Israeli right?


by the way, Vladimir, rubin is an american. he has written extremely well of the bashurî, but because he is a part of the american political establishment. . . in various think-tanks. . . his mind has been infected with the ideology of good kurd vs bad kurd, where good kurd conforms to the idea of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and bad kurd, well . . . is not.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:14 am
Author: dyaoko
Vladimir wrote:Rubbin is a American not Israeli right?

on their site which is full of dirty words about kurdish nation , it says they want to make relation between usa-israel . and they are working for their national interst and their national security as Jews.

and it is their national security to put an end to kurds movement in north.