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Apê me ye - Babê me ye - dil û cergê me ye!
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Re: Apê me ye - Babê me ye - dil û cergê me ye!
Author: ChiChalok » Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:10 pm
Apê me ye - Babê me ye - dil û cergê me ye! ??? what??? i didnt understand a THING .. 
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Author: cheryl » Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:30 pm
you are my uncle, you are my father, you are my heart and. . . liver?? 
perhaps in english the last part is best rendered: "you are my heart and soul."
it's not that i have anything against livers, mind you. i'm all for them. they just don't translate poetically into english.
perhaps in english the last part is best rendered: "you are my heart and soul."
it's not that i have anything against livers, mind you. i'm all for them. they just don't translate poetically into english.
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Author: Diri » Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:44 pm
cheryl wrote:you are my uncle, you are my father, you are my heart and. . . liver??
perhaps in english the last part is best rendered: "you are my heart and soul."
it's not that i have anything against livers, mind you. i'm all for them. they just don't translate poetically into english.
LOL! Great Cheryl! Impressive! I mean, VERY SURPRISING, of course!
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But you must switch out two words - it should be "You are our uncle, you are our father, you are our heart and liver"... But I am still impressed...
A LOT! 
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Author: Diri » Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:45 pm
PS - Chichalok - PLEASE have a look at the site that Heval wanted you to learn Kurdish from...
This wasn't HARD at all - I speak so to say, the same Kurdish as YOU do - and this is standard Kurmancî...
This wasn't HARD at all - I speak so to say, the same Kurdish as YOU do - and this is standard Kurmancî...
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Author: cheryl » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:15 pm
Diri wrote:cheryl wrote:you are my uncle, you are my father, you are my heart and. . . liver??
perhaps in english the last part is best rendered: "you are my heart and soul."
it's not that i have anything against livers, mind you. i'm all for them. they just don't translate poetically into english.
LOL! Great Cheryl! Impressive! I mean, VERY SURPRISING, of course!
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But you must switch out two words - it should be "You are our uncle, you are our father, you are our heart and liver"... But I am still impressed...
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
of course you are correct!
but i know the difference between "me" and "min." this is the fault of tomjez
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Author: cheryl » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:10 am
Diri wrote:Why Tomjez?
Did he give you a "French/Breton lecture in Kurdish"?
no, but now he probably will
i am teasing. my mind was taken over today with the question he raised about the 2004 elections and i had just posted a reply to that, so i was not thinking of "me" vs. "min."
by the way, i would add that if one knows the latin alphabet, the latin alphabet for kurdish is very easy to learn. i learned it even before i had a good idea of what kurdish even sounded like.
i know that probably sounds weird. . .
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Author: ChiChalok » Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:49 am
Diri wrote:PS - Chichalok - PLEASE have a look at the site that Heval wanted you to learn Kurdish from...
This wasn't HARD at all - I speak so to say, the same Kurdish as YOU do - and this is standard Kurmancî...
what is APE .. i call uncle "mam" not ape ... ??
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Author: Diri » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:32 pm
ChiChalok wrote:Diri wrote:PS - Chichalok - PLEASE have a look at the site that Heval wanted you to learn Kurdish from...
This wasn't HARD at all - I speak so to say, the same Kurdish as YOU do - and this is standard Kurmancî...
what is APE .. i call uncle "mam" not ape ... ??
It isn't "ape" - it is "ap" - and it is a Northern Kurdish expression...
Other words you may or may not use:
"Mam" û "Ap" = uncle on fathers side...
"Xal" = uncle on mothers side...
"Met" = aunt on fathers side...
"Xaltîk" û "Xaltê" = aunt on mothers side...
"Pismam"/"Kurmam" = uncles son on fathers side...
"Dotmam"/"Kichmam" = uncles daughter on fathers side...
"Kurxal" = uncles son on mothers side...
"Kichxal" = uncles daughter on mothers side...
"Birazî" = "nephew" for the fathers brother/sister...
"Xarzî" = nephew for the mothers brother/sister...
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Author: heval » Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:07 pm
Diri wrote:ChiChalok wrote:Diri wrote:PS - Chichalok - PLEASE have a look at the site that Heval wanted you to learn Kurdish from...
This wasn't HARD at all - I speak so to say, the same Kurdish as YOU do - and this is standard Kurmancî...
what is APE .. i call uncle "mam" not ape ... ??
"Xal" = uncle on mothers side...
Actually Kak Diri, in Hewraman, we use Lal or Lalo to describe an uncle on mothers side... (Xal is actually Arabic.)
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Author: Diri » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:03 pm
heval wrote:Diri wrote:ChiChalok wrote:Diri wrote:PS - Chichalok - PLEASE have a look at the site that Heval wanted you to learn Kurdish from...
This wasn't HARD at all - I speak so to say, the same Kurdish as YOU do - and this is standard Kurmancî...
what is APE .. i call uncle "mam" not ape ... ??
"Xal" = uncle on mothers side...
Actually Kak Diri, in Hewraman, we use Lal or Lalo to describe an uncle on mothers side... (Xal is actually Arabic.)
Well... Lal, where I come from means "dumb" - as in he/she can't speak...
Xal may be Arabic, though... As it is a Semitic word...
But that is the word we use - and I have never heard of any other word for it - not "Lal" or "Lalo" (which then would be a more "buddy-ish" name)...
Are there more names that others or my brother, Heval disagree with?
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Author: heval » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:19 am
Diri wrote:
Well... Lal, where I come from means "dumb" - as in he/she can't speak...
Xal may be Arabic, though... As it is a Semitic word...
But that is the word we use - and I have never heard of any other word for it - not "Lal" or "Lalo" (which then would be a more "buddy-ish" name)...
Are there more names that others or my brother, Heval disagree with?
Well, actually, I should correct myself brother. We have never used the word "Lal" to refer to our uncles. We only use the word, "Lalo" - like my uncle, Lalo Ali
I do not think there is another word for uncle on your mother's side in Kurdî so I'm sticking with my Hewramî roots on this one Last edited by heval on Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Author: ChiChalok » Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:40 am
Diri wrote:ChiChalok wrote:Diri wrote:PS - Chichalok - PLEASE have a look at the site that Heval wanted you to learn Kurdish from...
This wasn't HARD at all - I speak so to say, the same Kurdish as YOU do - and this is standard Kurmancî...
what is APE .. i call uncle "mam" not ape ... ??
It isn't "ape" - it is "ap" - and it is a Northern Kurdish expression...
Other words you may or may not use:
"Mam" û "Ap" = uncle on fathers side...
"Xal" = uncle on mothers side...
"Met" = aunt on fathers side...
"Xaltîk" û "Xaltê" = aunt on mothers side...
"Pismam"/"Kurmam" = uncles son on fathers side...
"Dotmam"/"Kichmam" = uncles daughter on fathers side...
"Kurxal" = uncles son on mothers side...
"Kichxal" = uncles daughter on mothers side...
"Birazî" = "nephew" for the fathers brother/sister...
"Xarzî" = nephew for the mothers brother/sister...
well i call my dad's brother ... mam
my mom's brother .. xal
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