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PostAuthor: womanizer » Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:57 pm

freedom+unity Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject:

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muslims have no place in kurdistan.
only idiots will allow such a religion.



Dear;
Sadly our nation are majority Muslim, let bring reason and argument in profession manner, I sour duty to wake our brother sister which they been druged (islaminized)for 1000 years. this Islam just is not rescue medic but is a Kurdish killer, and has never been anything good to kurds but only bloodshed
I have stated in different topic, that day Muslim(ARABs==Muslim==Arabs) put their feet in kurdistan, have turned our country upside down, they bring haters, destruction, illness . our kings such selahedin Eyubi did everything in his power to reform this religion to craet such strong brother hood among all nations and religion(his right hand commander in battle of jerusalem was Christian) , yes!! he did all he could to civilized region under flag of islam which he was truly believer, (he used glory of Kurdish race), in same time when selahedin was in battle filed Arabs was busy killing Kurds in Kurdistan, let no forget when Turks arrived we start destroyed our federation with roman empire and we become part blood suckers killing roman under name Koran, and hugging Turks because they Muslim, , and see the the fruit.
Some friends say some people may have misunderstanding or misinatraptoing Islam then how millions year we have to wait unit ill actually someone get it right??? It have to be cost of Kurdish nation blood, with entire race vanished. how can be 1420 years of Islam haven’t we seen one Muslim that say enough is enough, why we killing kurds? Has any Muslim ever screamed when my brothers sister been Anaflized with letter of Koran by millions ?? Has any Muslims been screamed when toady in Amed killing and bombing my bothers, sisters age of one month??/where Islam? Where is koran???how can be misinterpretation???over one billions Muslim against Kurdish wishes.
let not fool ourselves, Islamic world would never accepts you as Muslim, for them good Kurds is Kurds who leave Kurdistan in mercy of Muslims and join head choppers for killing innocent Israelies to e create another Arab country in heart of Israel. they will never consider you as Muslim, because you cant be, let listen to yourself just for one moment but only in Kurdish way!!
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PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:20 pm

I am Kurdish...
I am Muslim...
I am pro-Israel...

I am an individual... Like everybody... Therefore I don't like it when people put me in boxes...

Just because I am Muslims doesn't mean I am against Israel... I am pro-Israel... And I like Jews very much actually... I am fascinated with their will power and determination... Amazed... :)

I am Muslim, but, YAN KURDISTAN, YAN NEMAN...

Islam, like any religion, should not be mixed with politics...
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PostAuthor: freedom+unity » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:05 am

DIRI
ISLAM HAS BEEN USED IN POLITICS SINCE IT BEGAN LIKE ANY OTHER RELIGION, AND IT IS STILL USED TODAY. YOU MUST OPEN YOUR MIND TO THE POWER. WE ALL BELIEVE IN GOD BUT RELIGION IS ANOTHER DANGEROUS ANGENDA.
WE ARE HATED BY ALL ARABS, DO YOU ASK YOUR SELF WHY.
ITS NOT BECAUSE WE CALLOBARTED WITH USA BUT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT RADICALS IN RELIGION.
WHERE YOU ACCEPT IT OR NOT KURDISTAN WILL BE A NON ISLAMIC COUNTRY.
WE WILL NOT MAKE MISTAKES AGAIN. WE MUST LEARN FROM HISTORY.
ISLAM=POLITICS

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PostAuthor: womanizer » Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:42 am

Islam is not compatibles with western values, where democracy is flourished, and right of indnivutila is fully respect, Kurds as Indo-European race, Islamic (harsh desert culture) never compatibles with Kurdish peace loving culture.
Let not forget, Kurds always believed god, our god (Xwedê)is the greatest, Kurds had greatest civilization ever, Islam destroyed all, millions books and script has totally burned down, we has been blind ourselves, we event can’t go back to look and see what really happened, why we turn in such misery??
I don’t want go all details, I respect Kurds who still follow Islam, my idea here not to insult, but only for sake our nation to adopted case that bring the real face of Islam. Why we have to be follower something that is not compatible with us? Arabs and other Muslim they know that well. They know well, we too much civilized , we truly believe equality, unity(which in Islam never works)we cannot hate, we can not kill non Muslim, etc…, why we don’t know that??, as I said we had many messenger from the God, Abraham himself was Kurdish,.
We need to protect Kurdish old religion such as Ezdi(yezdi), and more study in Zerdust revelation, we need to reborn our values once again.

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PostAuthor: freedom+unity » Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:40 pm

turkey has no brains behind there nation. they are sacred of the future.
there only plan is to salvage any thing they can after the USA has finished with there plans.
they support iran and also support usa at the same time, this tactic will only end with turkey loosing a great chunk.
in kurdistan we trust. :)

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:17 pm

And the fact that PKK chose turkish has its official language is not a good sign for the intellectual level then :lol:
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PostAuthor: freedom+unity » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:02 am

pkk hasnt choosen turkish as a main language.
turkey has forced kurds to atoped the turkish language.
kurdish identity was at crisis, pkk uses turkish language as a way of getting to people who are lost and others that have forgoten there own language.
tonjez you must be another turkish kawat.

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:45 am

So helping kurds to find their identity included speaking only turkish? I'm lost here... I think the first duty of a "nationalist" party would be to do anything to save the national language. But all PKK texts or websites are in Turkish, and ÖCalan speaks very bad kurdish according to most of the ex-leaders of PKK...

and he was so proud to say "Annem türktür" (my mother is turk) anyway...you should not be so harsh with turks, your beloved prophet is half turk :lol:
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PostAuthor: freedom+unity » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:01 pm

firstly serok apo speaks perfect kurdish i have vhs tapes.
secondly as i said before they are helping people who don't speak kurdish
thirdly no kurdish man is half kurdish.
we are 100% kurdish.
ex-leaders are all traitors.
lastly remember
kurdistan is for kurds. :lol:

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PostAuthor: Amanc » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:42 pm

freedom+unity wrote:firstly serok apo speaks perfect kurdish i have vhs tapes.


I would like to see the tapes. How come I have never seen or heared him speaking Kurdish but 100 times in Turkish?

Why did he have a translator when he met Jalal Talabani? I'm sure you have seen that video.
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:53 pm

Ahah excellent a translator to speak with Talabani, I didn't know this one :lol:

He wrote EVERY of his boring books in a very bad turkish, which is not hard to understand because it's too clever, but because I'm not sure HE know what he wants to say...

thirdly no kurdish man is half kurdish


If your mother is turkish and your father kurdish, you're half kurdish and half turkish, that seems about logical :lol:

And Öcalan is VERY turkish in all his thoughts, he just to be the Kurds' Atatürk, without the brain or the military competence though!

Which Guerrilla in the world NEVER conquered any part of the territory it is claiming?
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PostAuthor: freedom+unity » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:20 pm

i have seen his speeches on med tv during 97-99 or it was around that time.
don't compare my leader to a poof.
his military skills have kept iran, turkey , iraq and syria form destroying the kurdish id.
i haven't seen the video where he required a translator, what the hell.
serok apo speaks perfect kurdish. i have heard many times.
you are both and turkey are trying hard to destroy his character.
he is god to me and 40 million others.

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:54 pm

Dude, only a part of northern kurds like him, I don't think they give a fuck about him in Southern Kurdistan...neither in West Kurdistan where Kurds were forced by Assad to join the PKK, neither in the east where they didn't wait for him to defend their identity!

his military skills have kept iran, turkey , iraq and syria form destroying the kurdish id.


Can you tell me in which way PKK helped southern Kurds against Iraq? Last time I checked PKK had wars against PUK and KDP...

I love the way PKK are proud that Öcalan is struggling againt Islam influence and then consider him as a new Jesus or Mahomet... Öcalan only tried to eradicate allah's influence because he was jealous :lol:
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PostAuthor: womanizer » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:02 pm

tomjez Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject:

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Dude, only a part of northern kurds like him, I don't think they give a fuck about him in Southern Kurdistan...neither in West Kurdistan where Kurds were forced by Assad to join the PKK, neither in the east where they didn't wait for him to defend their identity!

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his military skills have kept iran, turkey , iraq and syria form destroying the kurdish id.


Can you tell me in which way PKK helped southern Kurds against Iraq? Last time I checked PKK had wars against PUK and KDP...

I love the way PKK are proud that Öcalan is struggling againt Islam influence and then consider him as a new Jesus or Mahomet... Öcalan only tried to eradicate allah's influence because he was jealous


Dear friend,
What you have said is direct insult to our nation and our struggle, you make difference between kurds,
” It is more sound is like good Kurds and bad Kurds”
I think you have got all wrong!!why you say such thing!!
PKK is Kurdistani party. It is is not party of parts!!! Never has been party of parts. and never will be, is first party of its kinds that put all Kurds under one umbrella.
For god sake, just go see guerilla campus, each one of them come from different PART Kurdistan. Or simply have look at the statistic, of our guerilla(pesmerge) who martyred in eastern and northern Kurdistan(whether they are PKK or PJAK). This warrior come from all part of Kurdistan, they are symbolism of Kurdish nation as whole, just this year few months ago, 4 guerilla around Dersim was martyred, (they fought until last breath, even Turkey used chemical gas in that battle) they fight like heroes ever mankind had, each of those Kurdistan Son’s was from different part Kurdistan, you can see archive of Kurdistan-post.com for their background and photo.. they shall be remembered in each Kurds heart and mind as one for first time in this last 100 years., there is no east west..north etc…
My point is, if you think northern Kurdistan only follow PKK , you wrong, when Ocalan abducted, many Kurds who died in battling with police, was from eastern Kurdistan.
One more thing, tell me which party of Kurdistan haven’t done dirty work in order to stay alive, cooperating with Kurds enemy in different part? Which party haven’t fought in civil war? Which party, haven’t kiss, Sadaam, or Asaad, or khumaini Hands???, Or shall I put for you this way, which nation didn’t had civil war!! Please if you have never live in Kurdistan in all occupy parts and nether enough knowledge of kurdtsani parties, nor seen reality and nature and games of our enemies, don’t comment on Kurds, is totally misleading. we learning from of our mistakes, as President Barzani put it, the fight between Kurds is over!!
Kurds is one entity and as one and PKK is kurdistani party
the Kurdish nation struggle is struggle of one its kinds , is struggle that whole humanity is guilty and have Kurdish blood on their hands, each day when you walk to gas station to fill your car, it should be remind er to you ,the fact that you pouring your tank with Kurdish blood???

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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:16 pm

Oh my God... I WISH I understood what you wrote Womanizer... I really wanna know what your points are... :(


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Who are those other 40 millions whom Öcalan is "god" to (estafullah)?
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