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modern assyrians are nothing but a big lie

PostAuthor: kardox » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:38 pm

The modern designation " Assyrians" is invented by the English missionaries who gave this name to the East-Aramean Nestorians in order to form a militant youth organisation for their political plan in Iraq


read all of it here: http://www.aramnaharaim.org/assyrians.htm
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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:09 pm

From your link, Kardox...

The journalist Albert Stol has quoted in his book[2], a several writers to investigate the origin of the name "Assyrians" by which the Nestorians are named. Albert Stol tells us that the present-day Chaldeans and the Nestortians belong to the same people. After the schism inside the Nestorian Church, the separated part called themselves however Chaldeans to express the difference between them and the other part of the Nestorians. The Chaldeans accepted after the schism, the authority of the Pope of Rome and they became in this way his subjects. Stol tells,, In the seventeenth century the Roman Catholic church decide to call the group, who was acceded to the Catholic Church, henceforth by the name "Chaldeans"; because the name Nestorians was a " heretical" name".



Interesting! :D


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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:49 pm

I know that site since hmm 3 years and i have to say more you cant foolish people.

What is written in their is so ture like Turks are native to their homeland Turkey. :D

you can read about that Assyrians of today are the decent of the old Assyrians under this link:

http://aanf.org/America/assyrians/assyrians_assyria.htm

and under this one how that came that only people of the syriac orthodox are calling their self aramean not all of them some.

read here:

http://www.christiansofiraq.com/barsoum.html

http://www.christiansofiraq.com/joseph/reply2.html

http://www.christiansofiraq.com/Assyturkey.html

I think i just have answered all your question before you start with questions :wink:

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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:05 pm

Oh i just forgot to mention that after the theorie of our friendyl "arameans"

the Assyrians fanished allllllllll away exactly at the time of 612 not one day later of one day before excaly at that time a Nation with more then 50 million hmm isnt that funny..

and its soooo true hahaha but we assyrians dont care much about their talks if we would just use the name assyrian to false other people they would already know it dont you think?

But never mind if there is any question after showing you such links just ask

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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:23 pm

50 millions? When? HAHAHAHA! :lol:
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PostAuthor: kardox » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:40 pm

come on rumytianman dont be like turks, and still other peoples things, u could be proud Chaldean nastorian, Assyria was destroyed by the medes, cuz god send them to destroy them for a long time ago. Anyways why do u want to belong to a clan that was so tyrant and hasn't existed for a very long time ? ;)
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PostAuthor: kardox » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:43 pm

Diri wrote:50 millions? When? HAHAHAHA! :lol:


lol man , even if u consider reptiles the population of the world wouldn't be so many back then. consider that. ;)

I have nothing against any kurdistany, Christian or not, but i found that site interesting , i have had named this before, and there is alot of other documents on it. ;)
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:47 pm

Haha you guys are just talking the same shit like them well you just read what they write down.


Haha case we are Assyrians who talks about tyrants?

Isnt it sinsless that Assyrians were first send by god to punishes the israelis and later on that god send other to punish assyrians????? Strange or ?


But hahaha chaldean nestorian who you want to full`?
I think you guys are intrested only in it because you got make this lie as an advantage for kurds to claim for the northern iraq as kurdistan but hmm it wont work my dear.


just read the links i have gaved you and all your questions will be answered!

ASSYRIA FOR ASSYRIANS!

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:30 am

considering france was 20 millions in the XIV century, 50 000 000 assyrians 6 centuries B.C is certainly a lot. I'm quiteimpressed.
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PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:22 am

tomjez wrote:considering france was 20 millions in the XIV century, 50 000 000 assyrians 6 centuries B.C is certainly a lot. I'm quiteimpressed.



Me toooooooooo... But Only thing I am impressed with - is that Rumtaya - after TWO of us (Kardox and I) pointed out the fact that this is very inaccurate - he STILL didn't explain it - THAT is impressing - he sticks by his word - even when he knows it's a bit over the top! 8)
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:09 pm

You guys know that i am talking about the Assyrian Empire right???

you want to see the area??? I have read it, but i am not finding the link again ill look for it and if i have found it ill tell you about it.

Image in the Assyrain nation could be pretty 50 million peoples!

Ok but we are going offtopic so if you have any question according to Assyrians are a big lie of the western missionars then just feel free to ask :D

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PostAuthor: heval » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:08 pm

In this map, the Assyrian Empire is occupying the Hurrian and Medes (both Kurdistan lands). This does not mean they are 50 million. Be realistic: no ethnic group was in the 50 millions. It just means they are occupiers.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:20 pm

50 millions lol :roll:

At the best of its prosperity, Roman Empire could have 65,000,000 people in 170 A.D. It does not mean only "Latin or Roman" people, but all the European and Mediterraean people dominated by Romans...

So 50.000 Assyrians in the 1st Millenium BC, woao... you have included Assyrian sheeps, chickens and mouses in your account ?
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:23 pm

Yes from the Empire the population could be 50 million thats a realistic number isnt it?


Why doese it occupied Kurdistan? at that time there wasnt Kurdistan even known my dear friend there is Mada and Hurrian in it. But look were it shows Assyria and the cities of Assyria(homeland not empire) are nineveh,kalah,ashur,nuzi,arrapkha(kirkuk) ArbaElu is missing in it but that city hadnt such a big name at that time.

THIS IS THE EMPIRE OF MY ANCORST for sure it did occupied more lands thats noram by an Empire dont you think???

What i can tell you about Nineveh that only the city had more then 120 000 people just one city just imagine how much Babylon had it was pretty more inhabited then Nineveh or the Assyrian Religious Center and old capital Ashur :wink:

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PostAuthor: heval » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:30 pm

Rumtaya wrote:Why doese it occupied Kurdistan? at that time there wasnt Kurdistan even known my dear friend there is Mada and Hurrian in it.


It occupies KURDISTAN because I am referring to the word by it's meaning, the land of the Kurds. Hurrian and Medes are both Kurdish ancestors, and therefore the lands which they lived in are Kurdish lands or Kurdistan. Thus, the Assyrian Empire occupied Kurdistan.
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