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Ki Shex bizinî Dızani

PostAuthor: xareelat » Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:20 pm

shevıtan xaşu. navı mın mesute. ime veman dishin shex bızını le turkiye engere haymana dunishin. ime verce re ıraq hatıyin. mın nezamın ge ıraq re kuve hatıyin. eke shex bızınıyel dızani ge leku hestın ram qale vıkırın fıre a sha ıvım. le xutan mukate ıvın, de ve xatırıtan

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Re: Ki Shex bizinî Dızani

PostAuthor: talsor » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:58 am

xareelat wrote:shevıtan xaşu. navı mın mesute. ime veman dishin shex bızını le turkiye engere haymana dunishin. ime verce re ıraq hatıyin. mın nezamın ge ıraq re kuve hatıyin. eke shex bızınıyel dızani ge leku hestın ram qale vıkırın fıre a sha ıvım. le xutan mukate ıvın, de ve xatırıtan


tu gelek bexir hati Kak Mesute . Zorbye xelki li veri kurmanjina yan Soranin . Barwer nakim kes Shex bizinî bizana . Te rasti divi ez le nivisan dina te gelek ti naghim iter yan kurdya min xeraba yan tu be zaravayeki taybeti dinivisi :D .

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Re: Ki Shex bizinî Dızani

PostAuthor: xareelat » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:46 am

talsor wrote:tu gelek bexir hati Kak Mesute . Zorbye xelki li veri kurmanjina yan Soranin . Barwer nakim kes Shex bizinî bizana . Te rasti divi ez le nivisan dina te gelek ti naghim iter yan kurdya min xeraba yan tu be zaravayeki taybeti dinivisi :D .le gal rezim


heni qıse re zone xumane vishım

Shexbızın- English

Döt - girl
kure -man
xux - quince
Lovi - bean
Siv - Apple
Engür - grapes
Kevıy - Blue
Se - Black
Çermıy - White
Shami watermelon
Kelek - melon
Kuri - Pumpkin
Gırdakan - Walnuts
Emıru - Pear
Sevz - green
Sör - Red
Mın - My
Tu- You
evi- That
İme -we
İve - you
Evane - they

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Re: Ki Shex bizinî Dızani

PostAuthor: talsor » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:34 pm

xareelat wrote:
talsor wrote:tu gelek bexir hati Kak Mesute . Zorbye xelki li veri kurmanjina yan Soranin . Barwer nakim kes Shex bizinî bizana . Te rasti divi ez le nivisan dina te gelek ti naghim iter yan kurdya min xeraba yan tu be zaravayeki taybeti dinivisi :D .le gal rezim


heni qıse re zone xumane vishım

Shexbızın = English =kurmanji yan Sorani

Döt - girl=kecek= kec =qiez
kure -man = Kur yan lawek =(Boy/male) zelam yan Piywo=man
xux - quince=xux
Lovi - bean =lobi
Siv - Apple=siv
Engür - grapes=teri
Kevıy - Blue=seen (sheen)
Se - Black=res (resh)
Çermıy - White =sipi and the word Çermıy actually means " skin color "
Shami watermelon=Shami yan sebes(shebesh) yan zebes (zebesh)
Kelek - melon = Kalek is actually the melon before it is ripe :D the melon when ripe it is called "Gendor" that is in Kurmanji , however in sorani they call it Kalek also .

Kuri - Pumpkin =kurndir
Gırdakan - Walnuts =Geiz in kurmanji and I think Gırdakan in Sorani but not too sure .
Emıru - Pear= we use the term " armot " but i do not think it is Kurdish at all .

Sevz - green= Sewz yan kesk
Sör - Red=Sör
Mın - My=Mın
Tu- You=Tu
evi- That=evi
İme -we=İme
İve - you=İve
Evane - they=Evane
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Re: Ki Shex bizinî Dızani

PostAuthor: shahzendi » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:21 am

I would like to show here some samples from their dialect.

Personal pronoun:
min îma
tu îwa
ewî awana

chün how
kan/kancik which
arra/ ra cha why
cha what
key/ chi wext when
kî who
ku where

min dîyam/ dam I come
min nîyam/ nam I do not come

some verbs:
hatin / dîyam / bo to come
chin/ dichim / hero to go
kaftin /dikefim / vikaf to fall
xastin / dixazim/ vixaz to want
vînin / divînim/ vivîn to see
witin / divîshim/ vîsh to say
tashandin / ditashim/ vitash to learn
oshmardin/ doshmarim/ voshmar to count
vîrzandin/ divîrzim/ vivîrz to turn

Du brangim hastin. I have two brothers.
Karim ish nîya. or
Karim nîyastin. I have no work
Du döt u kuraykim hast. I have two daughters and a son.

min kirdim I did
tu kirde you did .....
ewî kird
îma kirdîn
îwa kirdin
awana kirdin

waran/ warish - rain
barf/ warf - snow
virîska - bolt
astara - star
xar/xor - sun
mang - moon

some other words

mal/ xana/ xanig/kapîr -house
adîna - friday
sîkard - oblation
ayîm - man
jin- woman
kur- boy
döt-girl
wawî-bride
gawra/yawra - big
pîr/wasal -old
köna- old
zandik- big, grievous,holly
bichik -smal
kut-short
dirîj -long
kü-mountain

sowzî /sawazî - morning
berbang - dawn
nîmaru - midday
dîyer - afternoon
îwarig - evening
shaw - night

werje - befor
düye/ da - after
aftîn/dîsan - again

min hastim - I am
tu haste - you are
ewî hast - he/she/it is
îma hastîn - we are
îwa hastin - you are
ewana hastin - they are

or the short form :

-im
-e
-a
-în
-in
-in

The tribes ( huz) in the Sheikh bizeyni Confederation:

Xewend
Kerkukî
Palanî
Tapan
Dashtî
Ler
Coexar
Hewedanî

In the Ottaman Archive they are called as " Akrad î Lek" but their language is not Lekî.
There are several theories where from and how this trunk comes.Probably they came in several periods from Iraq or were resettled.And I think personally because of her language that they from originally from kermanshah or îlam.

The name " bizeynî"

The proper noun of this tribe is "kirmanj" and they call her language "kirmanjekî".
In order where them with the Kurmanji t speakers live together they are called
Sexbizini .
About the meaning of the name there are some theories:

1. "bizen " from zeden in persian زدن to beat- sheykh bizenî

2. I found in the book from على سا يه ( Ferhengî Kurdî -Erebî zarî Kelhurî) on Page 88 the word
bizen بزه ن with the meaning شجاع - brave.I believe this word "bizen بزه ن " can close with the ´ name of the tribe Sheykh bizeni.

3. The older people of the tribe said me that earlier themselves called Shazenî

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Re: Ki Shex bizinî Dızani

PostAuthor: talsor » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:59 am

Thanks for this great info shahzendi and welcome to RBK , I hope you stick around .
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Re: Ki Shex bizinî Dızani

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:42 am

min jî ji zaravayê xwe hînek tevê kir, ez jî ji anatolya navînim.. ;)

Shexbızın = English =kurmanji yan Sorani = (kurmanciya reshî)

Döt - girl=kecek= kec =qiez / kachk
kure -man = Kur yan lawek =(Boy/male) zelam yan Piywo=man / mer/merik
xux - quince=xux / "ayba" dont know where it comes from..
Lovi - bean =lobi / palqa
Siv - Apple=siv / sêv
Engür - grapes=teri / tiri
Kevıy - Blue=seen (sheen) /heshin
Se - Black=res (resh) /rash
Çermıy - White =sipi and the word Çermıy actually means " skin color " / Gawir

Shami watermelon=Shami yan sebes(shebesh) yan zebes (zebesh) / zawosh
Kelek - melon = Kalek is actually the melon before it is ripe :D the melon when ripe it is called "Gendor" that is in Kurmanji , however in sorani they call it Kalek also . / kalak

Kuri - Pumpkin =kurndir /kundir
Gırdakan - Walnuts =Geiz in kurmanji and I think Gırdakan in Sorani but not too sure . / dont know :)
Emıru - Pear= we use the term " armot " but i do not think it is Kurdish at all . / arma

Sevz - green= Sewz yan kesk / kask
Sör - Red=Sör / Sur
Mın - My=Mın /Min
Tu- You=Tu /tu
evi- That=evi / va
İme -we=İme / ma
İve - you=İve / hun
Evane - they=Evane / aw/awna
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Re: Ki Shex bizinî Dızani

PostAuthor: shahzendi » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:36 am

ere brangam min zane shexbizeni ji dizanim.

ima verce 220 sal le hele Kerkuk u Xaneqin hatigin ve anatolia novrast. Werce awa ji la Kirmanshan vigin.la zamane Kerim Xan Zand ke evi ji serdare eshiretgale Lek vi ,ima le Wulate xoman le Kirmanshah( Rijab- Ser pel)
vigin. La duye vilag vigin u hatigin ve tarafe Xaneqin u Kerkuk.Imro ji irem le Kerkuk Shexbizeni hestin.La ew zamana Devlete Osmaniya ima we zur hawirdiga we anatolia novrast u vilag man kirdiga.

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