Archaeologists discover lost language in Kurdistan

[thesunchild]

First of all let me say this. It's disgusting to thing about living together with Persians in 1 country. I don't like Persians and Kurds do not belong in Persia, but in Kurdistan/Media.

But Kurdish and Persian nations are the closest relatives to each other. Are you denying that? And it's also a fact that Kurds and Persians are the biggest Aryan nations on earth in terms of population.

[jjmuneer]

First of all let me say this. It's disgusting to thing about living together with Persians in 1 country. I don't like Persians and Kurds do not belong in Persia, but in Kurdistan/Media.

But Kurdish and Persian nations are the closest relatives to each other. Are you denying that? And it's also a fact that Kurds and Persians are the biggest Aryan nations on earth in terms of population.

I was asking on the basis of what do you call we are the closest? Culturally and lingsuistcally yes, but genetically it is only really East Kurds who are. Are you denying that?
I asked you before what is an Aryan or Aryan nation? You didn't reply.
Anyways when do I recall you saying that we live together with Persians?

[thesunchild]

I'm using you own examples. As you can see Kurds and Iranians are clustered together.

All Kurds are the same. Kurds form East Kurdistan are the same as Kurd from West Kurdistan. We all are genetic brothers and sisters and we are all 1 nation!

Kurds are Aryans because our ancestors called themselves Aryans. Aryans were the LORDS & bosses of the Mesopotamia, Central Asia, Indus valley etc.

[jjmuneer]

I'm using you own examples. As you can see Kurds and Iranians are clustered together.

All Kurds are the same. Kurds form East Kurdistan are the same as Kurd from West Kurdistan. We all are genetic brothers and sisters and we ‘are all 1 nation!

Kurds are Aryans because our ancestors called themselves Aryans. Aryans were the LORDS & bosses of the Mesopotamia, Central Asia, Indus valley etc.

That is a admixture graph, it doesn't show genetic closenss. It just shows what components an ethnicity has. It clearly shows that Kurds have a higher west asian and european component than Iranians, whilst they have higher south Asian component than us.

Anyways this is the genetic closeness map, as you can see Iranian clsuter we Turks and Cypriots aswell, along with Armenians.


There is no Aryan haplogroup as you try and make out with your psuedo-science, if there was to be one itwould most likely be R1a1a.

Anyways I didn't ask who is an Aryan I asked what it is? Again you didn't answer my question.

[thesunchild]

There is no Aryan haplogroup as you try and make out with your psuedo-science, if there was to be one itwould most likely be R1a1a.

Anyways I didn't ask who is an Aryan I asked what it is? Again you didn't answer my question.

Hg. R1a1a is NOT Aryan. It's a mistake and a lie and invented by those that lack Kurdish/Aryan DNA.

Kurds and Persians are the closest relatives. It's a fact, brother!

As you can see Kurds are between Persians and Adygei (a tribe in the Caucasus).





Once again,

Aryans = rulers, lords, warriors. It's a well known fact that we Kurds are a warrior race!

[jjmuneer]

There is no Aryan haplogroup as you try and make out with your psuedo-science, if there was to be one itwould most likely be R1a1a.

Anyways I didn't ask who is an Aryan I asked what it is? Again you didn't answer my question.

Hg. R1a1a is NOT Aryan. It's a mistake and a lie and invented by those that lack Kurdish/Aryan DNA.

Kurds and Persians are the closest relatives. It's a fact, brother!

As you can see Kurds are between Persians and Adygei (a tribe in the Caucasus).





Once again,

Aryans = rulers, lords, warriors. It's a well known fact that we Kurds are a warrior race!

Kurds are not a race, what the hell?
How is R1a1a not Aryan marker? It is found at its highest frequency amongst Slavs and People in North west India, Afghanistan and Tajikistan. Where the Slavs and Indo-Iranians were.

Please tell me what that graph proves? Were not Iranians, Iranians on that map are Persians, and they don't even cluster with Adyegei people. They are close to them, but Persians are also close to Turks and Georgians. Anyways Persians you have to remember are mixed, as that admixture chart shows, they have considerably higher S.Asian component which we Kurds lack, and of course they don't have as much of a West Asian component as us. Anyways where on that map does it show Kurds? Were not Iranians.

What is a Kurdish DNA? lol
Well if Aryan means "warrior race" then so are many other people, like Turks, Africans etc.. You need to understand that Aryan was just a word to denote the indo-european Slavs and Indo-Iranians.

[Kurdistano]

i just want to add kurds are NOT iranians , they are Aryans and speak iranic languages . but saying kurds are iranians its a crime !

jj i have seen some of your posts (seenomore) on youtube saying kurds are iranians !! , i dont know how you can come to this conclusion but you are wrong .

Exactly this is what makes me suspicious sometimes

[Kurdistano]

i just want to add kurds are NOT iranians , they are Aryans and speak iranic languages . but saying kurds are iranians its a crime !

jj i have seen some of your posts (seenomore) on youtube saying kurds are iranians !! , i dont know how you can come to this conclusion but you are wrong .

Show me a post in which I said Kurds are Iranian? Lol show me please. I said we are Iranic which is a language group. Aryan isn't, Aryan is just a replacement for 'indo-European'. Who even said Kurds are Iranian here? Were talking about genetics and phenotypes.

Aryan is not a replacement for Indo European. Aryan is just a branch of Indo European which in itself can be divided into a Indo-Aryan and Iranic branch.

[jjmuneer]

i just want to add kurds are NOT iranians , they are Aryans and speak iranic languages . but saying kurds are iranians its a crime !

jj i have seen some of your posts (seenomore) on youtube saying kurds are iranians !! , i dont know how you can come to this conclusion but you are wrong .

Show me a post in which I said Kurds are Iranian? Lol show me please. I said we are Iranic which is a language group. Aryan isn't, Aryan is just a replacement for 'indo-European'. Who even said Kurds are Iranian here? Were talking about genetics and phenotypes.

Aryan is not a replacement for Indo European. Aryan is just a branch of Indo European which in itself can be divided into a Indo-Aryan and Iranic branch.

That is what I said before, but this guy is talking about how it is Kurds who are proto-Aryan. In the 19th century or pre-nazi era, Aryan was used to refer to all indo-european groups, I'm sure I've heard it somewhere. I know the Indo-Iranians were the first to refer to themselves as 'Aryans' or 'noble' ones, as seen in the Behistun inscriptions.

[Kurdistano]

First of all let me say this. It's disgusting to thing about living together with Persians in 1 country. I don't like Persians and Kurds do not belong in Persia, but in Kurdistan/Media.

But Kurdish and Persian nations are the closest relatives to each other. Are you denying that? And it's also a fact that Kurds and Persians are the biggest Aryan nations on earth in terms of population.

I was asking on the basis of what do you call we are the closest? Culturally and lingsuistcally yes, but genetically it is only really East Kurds who are. Are you denying that?
I asked you before what is an Aryan or Aryan nation? You didn't reply.
Anyways when do I recall you saying that we live together with Persians?

Not even them. Even Eastern Kurds can be separated from Persians in terms of genetic even though they are the closest to Iranians from all Kurds. Yet they stay also in between Georgians and Iranians.

[jjmuneer]

You right, actually the ones we E.Kurds are closest to are probably just N.Iranians, Mazandaris or Gilakis, since they also have Median ancestry. The thing with Georgians phenotypically they are considerably much more Mtebid and of course have their own unique look in terms of phenotypes that is. For genetics I'm not familar how close we are to them, I've seen Kurds clustering with Georgians, but not sure if that was N.Kurds.

[Kurdistano]

I'm using you own examples. As you can see Kurds and Iranians are clustered together.

All Kurds are the same. Kurds form East Kurdistan are the same as Kurd from West Kurdistan. We all are genetic brothers and sisters and we are all 1 nation!

Kurds are Aryans because our ancestors called themselves Aryans. Aryans were the LORDS & bosses of the Mesopotamia, Central Asia, Indus valley etc.

This graph is not very representative cause the samples used for Kurds are mostly Eastern and Southern Kurds from eastern parts (Slemani). Though you still can make up a difference between the Kurds and Iranians in this Graph. Even though Kurds are separated by borders they still form a close Group. An Eastern Kurd is closer to an Western Kurd as he is to Iranians for example but it is a fact that the Eastern Kurd, compared to the Western, do show more closeness to Iranians as the Western one.
Also note this graph is bull crap. The population used as reference for South Asian genes are Pakistanis which makes even the Lithuanians and other East Europeans look as if they have a good chunk of South Asian. Guys never take such terms used for components to literally. They could call genes only common among North Europeans and South Asians, South Asian and it would look like North Europeans got more South Asian genes as South Europeans. Its just a matter of the term used.

[thesunchild]

Kurds are not a race, what the hell?
How is R1a1a not Aryan marker? It is found at its highest frequency amongst Slavs and People in North west India, Afghanistan and Tajikistan. Where the Slavs and Indo-Iranians were.

Please tell me what that graph proves? Were not Iranians, Iranians on that map are Persians, and they don't even cluster with Adyegei people. They are close to them, but Persians are also close to Turks and Georgians. Anyways Persians you have to remember are mixed, as that admixture chart shows, they have considerably higher S.Asian component which we Kurds lack, and of course they don't have as much of a West Asian component as us. Anyways where on that map does it show Kurds? Were not Iranians.

What is a Kurdish DNA? lol
Well if Aryan means "warrior race" then so are many other people, like Turks, Africans etc.. You need to understand that Aryan was just a word to denote the indo-european Slavs and Indo-Iranians.

The Slavs are absolutely NOT Aryan. You’re confused. We Aryans 'fucked' them (Slavs) 3000 years ago in the Pontic-Caspian Steppes! Actuallly not so long time ago, Slavs were considered as subhumans.

The spot between Persians and Adygei are Kurds.

Once again the Medes, Mitanni and the Hurrians called themselves Aryans. We’re descendant of those people. We're a warrior RACE.

[Kurdistano]

You right, actually the ones we E.Kurds are closest to are probably just N.Iranians, Mazandaris or Gilakis, since they also have Median ancestry. The thing with Georgians phenotypically they are considerably much more Mtebid and of course have their own unique look in terms of phenotypes that is. For genetics I'm not familar how close we are to them, I've seen Kurds clustering with Georgians, but not sure if that was N.Kurds.

Guys just forgot about this Median thing. Medians are probably a good part of Kurdish ancestors but like I mentioned a thousand times before Media was made up by a ruling Group of Medes(which probably were related to Mitannis) and other Iranic Groups like Cimmerians, Scythians-Alans which used to settle in Kurdistan. Not to forget the Gutians and Caucasian Groups like Manneans and Hurrians.

[jjmuneer]

You right, actually the ones we E.Kurds are closest to are probably just N.Iranians, Mazandaris or Gilakis, since they also have Median ancestry. The thing with Georgians phenotypically they are considerably much more Mtebid and of course have their own unique look in terms of phenotypes that is. For genetics I'm not familar how close we are to them, I've seen Kurds clustering with Georgians, but not sure if that was N.Kurds.

Guys just forgot about this Median thing. Medians are probably a good part of Kurdish ancestors but like I mentioned a thousand times before Media was made up by a ruling Group of Medes(which probably were related to Mitannis) and other Iranic Groups like Cimmerians, Scythians-Alans which used to settle in Kurdistan. Not to forget the Caucasian Groups like Manneans and Hurrians.

I thought Mitanni were just Hurrains ruled by an Indo-Aryan upper-class?
But weren't Medes one of the Iranic tribes that pourced in the Middle-east alongst with Persians? Plus I find it strange how we Kurds speak a NW Iranic language, which the Medes supossdly did. I know Scythians/Alans were also a major part of our history, Tbh I don't think we can tell, since mosto f the Iranic tribes were akin to eachother. We also have Parthian ancestry amongst Fayli Kurds.
I don't think Cimmerians were solely Iranic though, they have other indo-european factions within them. It was probably mostly an Iranic group though.