Which Kurdî do you speak?

[Diri]

My father obviously likes that song... He made me play it a couple of times... When it stopped, he was like - "What happened to Hero Celalî?"


So I played it maybe 5 times...

awwwww, so, your father's must be reall cool

but who's "Hero Celalî"? im lost!
if you mean the singer, she is called "shehîn Talebanî"

Yes - Shehîn Talebanî...




I was just thinking of Telebanî's wife... And she for sure is NO singer! Hahaha

[Diri]

Everybody is voting in the OLD thread...

This poll is much more accurate - in the old thread the poll was only divided into two options...

In this thread there are 4 options...

[KurdiBoy]

Sorani, the one spoken in kermashan

[Johny Bravo]

Ziwanê mi Zazakî yo.

My language is Zazaki.

[KurdiBoy]

Ziwanê mi Zazakî yo.

My language is Zazaki.

Ziwanê mi Soranî yo.

but really weird cause im supposed to be sorani and i say ziwan but kurds in iraq say ziman

hehe i got zazaki in my dialect

[Johny Bravo]

but really weird cause im supposed to be sorani and i say ziwan but kurds in iraq say ziman

hehe i got zazaki in my dialect

Yes, Southern Kurdish speakers do use "ziwan" too, because ziwan is older.

I show you the delevoping of this word:

Proto-Indoeuropean: dnghwa (from which comes also "tongue")
Sanskrit: cihwa-
Old Iranian: hizwa-
Middle Persian and Parthian: izwan
Zazaki: ziwan, Southern Kurdish: ziwan, Some caspian langauges: zivan

And this changed in New Persian to "zeban" and in Kurmanji to "ziman", while some Kurmanji dialects of Dersim and Elaziz do use also "ziwan". But the Kurdish Institutes do ignore this and took "ziman", while "ziwan" is the oldest form.

[Mamma Mia]

Kurdish...Yes, you can call one language like that. But When you claim "you speak Kurdish" in Diyarbakir, then go to Suleymaniya, and nobody understands what are you talking about, and they call the language as Kurdish as well, then my friends, you have a big problem here.

Sorani and Kurmanci are as different as German and English in their grammar, and as different as German and Dutch in their vocabulaty according to Kurdologist Martin van Bruinessen.

Then, there are Zazaki, and Gorani, which are completely different languages, have no common grammar with neither Kurmanci nor Sorani.

So, my friends, you have four languages (Kurmanci, Sorani, Zazaki, and Gorani), and hundreds of sub-dialects in your hands.

Kurdish? yes, Kurdish, but what is Kurdish? If Sorani and Kirmanci are both Kurdish, then English, Dutch, and German are same languages too.

[kardox]

Kurdish...Yes, you can call one language like that. But When you claim "you speak Kurdish" in Diyarbakir, then go to Suleymaniya, and nobody understands what are you talking about, and they call the language as Kurdish as well, then my friends, you have a big problem here.

Sorani and Kurmanci are as different as German and English in their grammar, and as different as German and Dutch in their vocabulaty according to Kurdologist Martin van Bruinessen.

Then, there are Zazaki, and Gorani, which are completely different languages, have no common grammar with neither Kurmanci nor Sorani.

So, my friends, you have four languages (Kurmanci, Sorani, Zazaki, and Gorani), and hundreds of sub-dialects in your hands.

Kurdish? yes, Kurdish, but what is Kurdish? If Sorani and Kirmanci are both Kurdish, then English, Dutch, and German are same languages too.

It is the same language, I am a kurmanji speaker, but i understand all of the other dialects. Just consider that we haven't had a common language. You cant use your arguments, dialects can me very different even in small countries such as Denmark. West and east Denmark do not understand each other if it wasn't for their common written language which is called "Rigsdansk" . Just imagine the atrocities and all the efforts by enemies of the Kurds then you will understand why.
nice try

[kurdimemin_diako]

Sorani is not south kurmanci

[kardox]

Sorani is not south kurmanci

it is categorized as south Kurmanji, nothing new in it.

[kurd-sthanam]

It is the same language, I am a kurmanji speaker, but i understand all of the other dialects. Just consider that we haven't had a common language. You cant use your arguments, dialects can me very different even in small countries such as Denmark. West and east Denmark do not understand each other if it wasn't for their common written language which is called "Rigsdansk" . Just imagine the atrocities and all the efforts by enemies of the Kurds then you will understand why.
nice try

Kekemin to claiming that kurds understands each other, when they can not, divides us more. There are no standart kurdish, but different kurdish languages. danish-norwegian-swedish languages are more related to each other than kurdish dialects. swedish and norwegian tourists dont speak english in denmark but just their own language. these languages are like subdialects of kurmanji. I can communicate kurdish in some way with sorani speakers i know. but when they begin to speak with each other, i can't understand. the same goes with zazaki speakers. I know a zazaki speaker, he also speaks little kurmanji but we can not communicate with each other because he can not understand my kurmanji dialect, so we speak turkish. are you sure that you understand all dialects?

[kurdimemin_diako]

Sorani, the one spoken in kermashan

in kirmansha they do not speak Sorany (not even kurdish ! they speak Farsi )
but even if a little population of people in kirmanshah speak Kurdish they speak leki and kelhuri . but if you are caf (جاف) then u speak Sorani

[kardox]

It is the same language, I am a kurmanji speaker, but i understand all of the other dialects. Just consider that we haven't had a common language. You cant use your arguments, dialects can me very different even in small countries such as Denmark. West and east Denmark do not understand each other if it wasn't for their common written language which is called "Rigsdansk" . Just imagine the atrocities and all the efforts by enemies of the Kurds then you will understand why.
nice try

Kekemin to claiming that kurds understands each other, when they can not, divides us more. There are no standart kurdish, but different kurdish languages. danish-norwegian-swedish languages are more related to each other than kurdish dialects. swedish and norwegian tourists dont speak english in denmark but just their own language. these languages are like subdialects of kurmanji. I can communicate kurdish in some way with sorani speakers i know. but when they begin to speak with each other, i can't understand. the same goes with zazaki speakers. I know a zazaki speaker, he also speaks little kurmanji but we can not communicate with each other because he can not understand my kurmanji dialect, so we speak turkish. are you sure that you understand all dialects?

Main dialects, I do speak them. I think it is very wrong to call dialects languages.

[ocmentos]

And back to the Standard Kurdish dialect - Maybe it is best to keep two official dialects - Kurmancî and Soranî??? Norway has this - so does Germany and others... But look at Sweden - they have standarized Swedish into the Stockholm version (capital city)... Would it be fair to teach only Hewlêrî dialect? (Or Kirkukî dialect in the future of South Kurdistan)

actually since the founding of slemani, the slemani accent is the standard sorani accent for writing, no matter where you come from sina, erbil, kerkuk, they all write with the slemani accent although there are only a few changes made..... and the language of written sorani even though is closest to slemani accent, still no ones really speaks with in thier homes, it is only in writing, interviews and official places..... we can say that sorani is already standarized from a long time ago.... I think the smart thing to do is to make the duhok accent the standard accent for kirmanji, that way sorani and kirmanji will be really close ( i know that the accent of the hewleris is closer to kirmanji or around the borders as you said, but for sorani which has for long been written with and standarized that is really difficult, but since there is no standard kirmanji, duhok accent could be chosen for that)