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arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:23 am
Author: Azadkanjo
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Do You think arabic alphabet for kurdish writing is still being strongly used by kurds from Syria and Kurdistan Regional Government, or do You think latin alphabet created by Bedirxan is gaining more popularity among the kurds??

There are interesting thought about that. One of them is the fact that Avesta website, which is the most visited kurdish website, 7,8 million hits a month, surprisingly has no more than 2 or 3 comments per day (You can comment every news coming out). May be this is a signal that people know, more or less, to read in latin kurdish, but They don't know to write on this alphabet (or They make a lot of grammar mistakes and They are embarrassed for leaving a comment).

What do You think? Bedirxan big work is going ahead or arabic alphabet will mash the poor Bedirxan and kurdish people??

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:17 am
Author: Johny Bravo
Latin is better, because it has all vocal-louds in letters for kurdish and its simply universal.

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:32 am
Author: KurdiBoy
arabic is much better, remember our neighbours for now their enemies but in hundreds of years it will be new people and new ideas, arabic script=fit in with the rest of the middle east.

latin script=isolation

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:35 am
Author: lavin
probably Latin make us more lonely. I have no experience in this area

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:53 pm
Author: Johny Bravo
KurdiBoy wrote:arabic is much better, remember our neighbours for now their enemies but in hundreds of years it will be new people and new ideas, arabic script=fit in with the rest of the middle east.

latin script=isolation

Turks and Azeris have also Latin script, Israelis have their own script.

And this peoples are much developed and richter than arabs and persians.

Latin is universally, it is using in the world business, in the electronic, in the internet, everywhere in the world. Its also richer, the arabic sripct has not all vocals they Kurdish need and its more difficult. As example the appearance of the letters will change at many cases.

But its the decision of the Iraqi Kurds. If they like Arabic, then they should use Arabic.

Northern Kurds don't will take the arabic script.

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:10 pm
Author: KurdiBoy
Johny Bravo wrote:
KurdiBoy wrote:arabic is much better, remember our neighbours for now their enemies but in hundreds of years it will be new people and new ideas, arabic script=fit in with the rest of the middle east.

latin script=isolation

Northern Kurds don't will take the arabic script.


what makes you think kurds from the other 3 parts will take the latin script?

it is fact that most modern writing is in the arabic script, and another fact that most kurds in northern kurdistan are illiterate in kurdish.

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:16 pm
Author: talsor
Does anyone know What alphabet is being used in schools in southeren Kurdistan ?

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:40 pm
Author: KurdiBoy
talsor wrote:Does anyone know What alphabet is being used in schools in southeren Kurdistan ?


arabic alphabet is used in all parts of kurdistan except northern part. so answer to ur question is arabic script

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:12 am
Author: Johny Bravo
A kurdolog said:

If the kurds don't have an unify alphabet, then the kurdish dialects will grow apart themselve. Sorani and Kurmanji will be own languages ("zimanĂȘn cuda") he said.

what makes you think kurds from the other 3 parts will take the latin script?


Because Kurds and the USA are in a co-operation. And USA wants that Kurdistan will be a western state.

it is fact that most modern writing is in the arabic script, and another fact that most kurds in northern kurdistan are illiterate in kurdish.


Do the Bahdini-speakers do use arabic or latin?

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:54 pm
Author: KurdiBoy
Johny Bravo wrote:Do the Bahdini-speakers do use arabic or latin?


It is arabic script, 95% sure

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:17 pm
Author: Sirwan
There can be other alphabets for Kurdish. Before Islam iranic people used to write in Pahlavi script. that is Aramaic, or better known today as Syriac. I know Kurdish writers from eastern kurdistan who prefer this script for Kurdish.
Also there is a Yazidi script. Meshefa resh is written with it. Like Armenian and Georgian it is unique, but it is similar to phoenician alphabet

But today Kurds from eastern southern and western Kurdistan are fluent in Arabic script. also the northern Kurdistanis are firm supportives of Islam. this means they have the ability to learn Arabic/islamic/Quranic alphabet.

The same is true for latin alphabet. Northern Kurds are fluent in latin script; but eastern, southern and western Kurds all have more or less a knowledge of latin alphabet.

@Johny
<<And this peoples are much developed and richter than arabs and persians.>>
I dont think turks are more developed than Persians. Iran has a much better economy than turkey and Azarbaijan. I've lived in both turkey and Iran, and found Iran a beatiful country (exept its Kurdisan and Baluchistan). The only problem with Iran is its politicians who are severely anti-usa. and you won't see naked europeans running there.

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:44 pm
Author: KurdiBoy
Sirwan wrote:There can be other alphabets for Kurdish. Before Islam iranic people used to write in Pahlavi script. that is Aramaic, or better known today as Syriac. I know Kurdish writers from eastern kurdistan who prefer this script for Kurdish.
Also there is a Yazidi script. Meshefa resh is written with it. it is similar to Armenian and Georgian. i.e. it is unique.

But today Kurds from eastern southern and western Kurdistan are fluent in Arabic script. also the northern Kurdistanis are firm supportives of Islam. this means they have the ability to learn Arabic/islamic/Quranic alphabet.

The same is true for latin alphabet. Northern Kurds are fluent in latin script; but eastern, southern and western Kurds all have more or less a knowledge of latin alphabet.

@Johny
<<And this peoples are much developed and richter than arabs and persians.>>
I dont think turks are more developed than Persians. Iran has a much better economy than turkey and Azarbaijan. I've lived in both turkey and Iran, and found Iran a beatiful country (exept its Kurdisan and Baluchistan). The only problem with Iran is its politicians who are severely anti-usa. and you won't see naked europeans running there.


Sirwan ema natwanin bo yek parchay kurdistan systemi writingi kurdi bkayna latini=we can not make our script latin just because of one part of kurdistan

and like i have said before most kurds in turkey dont even know how to speak kurdish properly...

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:49 pm
Author: Sirwan
KurdiBoy wrote:
Sirwan ema natwanin bo yek parchay kurdistan systemi writingi kurdi bkayna latini=we can not make our script latin just because of one part of kurdistan

and like i have said before most kurds in turkey dont even know how to speak kurdish properly...


Do you prefer arabic script for northern kurdistanis?

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:55 pm
Author: KurdiBoy
Sirwan wrote:Do you prefer arabic script for northern kurdistanis?


yes it will also keep them away from turks who use latin script, you never know later the turks will say we borrowed latin alphabet from them :lol:

but for arabic script we all know it is universally used for languages like arabic(duh) ,urdu,persian,pashto, kashmiri, balochi and many more

Re: arabic kurdish VS. latin kurdish

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:01 pm
Author: Sirwan
KurdiBoy wrote:
Sirwan wrote:Do you prefer arabic script for northern kurdistanis?


yes it will also keep them away from turks who use latin script, you never know later the turks will say we borrowed latin alphabet from them :lol:

but for arabic script we all know it is universally used for languages like arabic(duh) ,urdu,persian,pashto, kashmiri, balochi and many more


You are 100% right. I too had thought about it.
But the question which now raises is ''how to extend the number of people who can write/read this alphabet''; though we know it is already largely popular in north kurdistan due to islam.