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Question about dialects

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:44 pm
Author: jjmuneer
Is there actually a difference bewteen Kermanshahi and Faylee? I seem to fail to see the diferrence or hear it. When I was in kermanshah I spoke Kurdish my dialect, and no one failed to understand.

Re: Quetion about dialects

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:58 pm
Author: Kurdistano
jjmuneer wrote:Is there actually a difference bewteen Kermanshahi and Faylee? I seem to fail to see the diferrence or hear it. When I was in kermanshah I spoke Kurdish my dialect, and no one failed to understand.


Kermashani and fayli are both South Kurdish dialects and usually considered as "small Lori" while Baxtiyari etc. are considered "big Lori"

Re: Question about dialects

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:24 pm
Author: kurd-sthanam
hey jjmuner, how do you say this in feyli:

i did
you did
he/she/it did
we did
you did
they did

i run
you run
...

how do you mark objective and plural in feyli, i asked just to know what the gramatic differences of the dialects is.

Re: Question about dialects

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:48 pm
Author: jjmuneer
kurd-sthanam wrote:hey jjmuner, how do you say this in feyli:

i did
you did
he/she/it did
we did
you did
they did

i run
you run
...

how do you mark objective and plural in feyli, i asked just to know what the gramatic differences of the dialects is.


I don't know the kurmanji latin script entirely, so bare with me.
Meh Kirdem- i did
tu kirded-you did
xwa kird-he did
emna kirdimen-we did
xuwayan kirden-they did

meh edawem-i run
tu edawed-you run

For your last question, I really don't know how to explain it, the thing with growing up with a language and learning a langauge, in my opinion you learn better whilst learning it in classroom. But I think it depends on the word and how you use it.

Re: Quetion about dialects

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:51 pm
Author: jjmuneer
Kurdistano wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:Is there actually a difference bewteen Kermanshahi and Faylee? I seem to fail to see the diferrence or hear it. When I was in kermanshah I spoke Kurdish my dialect, and no one failed to understand.


Kermashani and fayli are both South Kurdish dialects and usually considered as "small Lori" while Baxtiyari etc. are considered "big Lori"

Oh now I see, but why do Persians claim Kermanshahis are Persians? In Kermanshah there are no or barely any Persians.

Re: Quetion about dialects

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:15 pm
Author: Kawe
jjmuneer wrote:
Kurdistano wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:Is there actually a difference bewteen Kermanshahi and Faylee? I seem to fail to see the diferrence or hear it. When I was in kermanshah I spoke Kurdish my dialect, and no one failed to understand.


Kermashani and fayli are both South Kurdish dialects and usually considered as "small Lori" while Baxtiyari etc. are considered "big Lori"

Oh now I see, but why do Persians claim Kermanshahis are Persians? In Kermanshah there are no or barely any Persians.



They would probably claim Amed to be theirs too! :lol:

Kermanshan is without a doubt a Kurdish city.

Re: Quetion about dialects

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:22 pm
Author: Kurdistano
jjmuneer wrote:
Kurdistano wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:Is there actually a difference bewteen Kermanshahi and Faylee? I seem to fail to see the diferrence or hear it. When I was in kermanshah I spoke Kurdish my dialect, and no one failed to understand.


Kermashani and fayli are both South Kurdish dialects and usually considered as "small Lori" while Baxtiyari etc. are considered "big Lori"

Oh now I see, but why do Persians claim Kermanshahis are Persians? In Kermanshah there are no or barely any Persians.



Persians claim much if the day is long. They try to persify Kirmashan. They want to do the same what they have done to Baxtiyaris. Ones Baxtiyaris were Kurds even a big city in Lorestan is called SHahre Kord. They know that but they claim that Lors are Persian because Lors absorbed so muchb Persian loanwords that their language has become South Iranic.

Re: Question about dialects

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:13 am
Author: jjmuneer
Yeh I asked my dad aswell, he says their persianized Kurds.

Re: Question about dialects

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:18 am
Author: jjmuneer
Yeh I know, but whenever they do claim kermanshah is persian, I get very pissed off.

Re: Question about dialects

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:52 am
Author: Kurdistano
jjmuneer wrote:Yeh I know, but whenever they do claim kermanshah is persian, I get very pissed off.

Look man.
Do you Guys dance Halparke/Gowend? Yes you do!
Have you ever seen a Persian dancing Halparke? NO I HAVENT

Do Kirmashanis wear the typical Kurdish baggies? YES they do.
Have you ever seen Persians wearing them? NO they dont.


You are a Kirmashani next time a Persian claims this tell him "shut the fuck up you son of Ahmedinejad". I am Kirmashani I dance Halparke and wear Kurdish baggies what have I to do with Persians?

Re: Question about dialects

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:50 pm
Author: jjmuneer
Kurdistano wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:Yeh I know, but whenever they do claim kermanshah is persian, I get very pissed off.

Look man.
Do you Guys dance Halparke/Gowend? Yes you do!
Have you ever seen a Persian dancing Halparke? NO I HAVENT

Do Kirmashanis wear the typical Kurdish baggies? YES they do.
Have you ever seen Persians wearing them? NO they dont.


You are a Kirmashani next time a Persian claims this tell him "shut the fuck up you son of Ahmedinejad". I am Kirmashani I dance Halparke and wear Kurdish baggies what have I to do with Persians?


The problem is no persian ever says it to me in real life, just on the internet, thats the part the annoys me. I just want to punch them, yeh I know I'm violent, but oh well. I'm 6'1, so yeh I can be intimidating.

and spas heval for the advice. :D