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Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: Johny English » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:16 pm

My ideas:

Grammer of an unified kurdish

Personal pronomes

ez : min
tu : te
ew : wí, wé
eme : me
eshme : shime
ewan : wan

Presense building

me- (like in Hewramí)

ez mekem = I do (Sorani: min dekem), ez mewínim = I see (Sorani: min debînim)

Ownership building

namé min = my name
namim = my name

rojha new = new day

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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: Johny English » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:48 pm

Numbers

yew (yek is a shorted form of Pahlavi/Parthian êwek, this -k is only adjective suffix, Indo-European *oi- "one")
du
hré (sê is from Persian)
ciwar
penj
shesh
heft
new (is older, Indoeuropean *newn)
des (deh is from Persian, Old Iranian: dese-)

wíst = twenty
hris = thirty (sih is from Persian)
cewres = forty (chil is from Persian, Parthian chefrest)
penjas (Avesta penčāsete, Parthian pencāst, Pahlavi pencāh)
shesht (Av. xšvešti)
hefta
newd
sed
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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:49 pm

Is it me or don't you love the old Kurdish language?
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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: Johny English » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:50 pm

jjmuneer wrote:Is it me or don't you love the old Kurdish language?


The old words are from Gorani and Zazaki, so they exist bro. ;)
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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:28 pm

have you been member here before? :)

in kurmanci it is already like this in archaic accents:

ez - min
tu - te
ew/ewya (he/she) - ewî/ewê
em - me
hûn - we
ewana - ewan

the first we need now is to learn our own languages right and full (or dialects) and minimize the use of turkish (or arabic, persian). we must read newspapers and book on our own language.

But yes for now kurmanci needs realy a standard.
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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: Johny English » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:30 pm

kurd-sthanam wrote:have you been member here before? :)

in kurmanci it is already like this in archaic accents:

ez - min
tu - te
ew/ewya (he/she) - ewî/ewê
em - me
hûn - we
ewana - ewan


Yes, I was "Johny Bravo".

Cool, I didn't know that "ewya" for "she" exists.

the first we need now is to learn our own languages right and full (or dialects) and minimize the use of turkish (or arabic, persian). we must read newspapers and book on our own language.


I agree.
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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:36 pm

Johny English wrote:Cool, I didn't know that "ewya" for "she" exists.


yes we use it but not so much, only for pointing for example a woman you see or a feminin thing.

we use also: va / vîya (this masc. or feminin)
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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:39 pm

We say 'Jina' for lady.
'Pyaga' for man.
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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:45 pm

our izafe system is like zazakî not the standard kurmancî.

-ê and î for masculin
-a and -ê for feminin
-ê and -i for plural
-ini for "some"

but even if this is more archaic, it will be bad for an kurmanci standard or kurdish standard because the minority use this.

Jin = woman
Mêr / zilam = man
pyaxşix = handsome
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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: Johny English » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:03 pm

I'm for the grammer and the vowels of the modern Kurmanji and Sorani with the consonants of the older dialects/languages.

Like "mekem" instead of "dekem" (like in Laki), bu not "mekerem" like in Hawrami.
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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: Johny English » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:06 pm

jjmuneer wrote:We say 'Jina' for lady.
'Pyaga' for man.


Yes, it comes from Old Iranian -â, in Zazaki kept as -e like in roje "day".
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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:34 pm

Johny English wrote:I'm for the grammer and the vowels of the modern Kurmanji and Sorani with the consonants of the older dialects/languages.

Like "mekem" instead of "dekem" (like in Laki), bu not "mekerem" like in Hawrami.



we have already a mix of all dialects wich sounds like all dialects. şêxbizinî in anatolia :-D
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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:39 pm

Johny English wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:We say 'Jina' for lady.
'Pyaga' for man.


Yes, it comes from Old Iranian -â, in Zazaki kept as -e like in roje "day".

yeh we also say Roje. For night we say 'Showe'.
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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:41 pm

Do other speakers say 'Tu chejhed?' for 'what are you saying'?
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Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

PostAuthor: Johny English » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:55 pm

It's probably a swallowed version of *tu ci wejhíd.

wejh- is the steme for "say" in southern Kurdish dialects.
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