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Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:16 pm
Author: Johny English
My ideas:
Grammer of an unified kurdish
Personal pronomes
ez : min
tu : te
ew : wí, wé
eme : me
eshme : shime
ewan : wan
Presense building
me- (like in Hewramí)
ez mekem = I do (Sorani: min dekem), ez mewínim = I see (Sorani: min debînim)
Ownership building
namé min = my name
namim = my name
rojha new = new day

Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:48 pm
Author: Johny English
Numbers
yew (yek is a shorted form of Pahlavi/Parthian êwek, this -k is only adjective suffix, Indo-European *oi- "one")
du
hré (sê is from Persian)
ciwar
penj
shesh
heft
new (is older, Indoeuropean *newn)
des (deh is from Persian, Old Iranian: dese-)
wíst = twenty
hris = thirty (sih is from Persian)
cewres = forty (chil is from Persian, Parthian chefrest)
penjas (Avesta penčāsete, Parthian pencāst, Pahlavi pencāh)
shesht (Av. xšvešti)
hefta
newd
sed
Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:49 pm
Author: jjmuneer
Is it me or don't you love the old Kurdish language?
Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:50 pm
Author: Johny English
jjmuneer wrote:Is it me or don't you love the old Kurdish language?
The old words are from Gorani and Zazaki, so they exist bro.

Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:28 pm
Author: kurd-sthanam
have you been member here before?

in kurmanci it is already like this in archaic accents:
ez - min
tu - te
ew/ewya (he/she) - ewî/ewê
em - me
hûn - we
ewana - ewan
the first we need now is to learn our own languages right and full (or dialects) and minimize the use of turkish (or arabic, persian). we must read newspapers and book on our own language.
But yes for now kurmanci needs realy a standard.
Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:30 pm
Author: Johny English
kurd-sthanam wrote:have you been member here before?

in kurmanci it is already like this in archaic accents:
ez - min
tu - te
ew/ewya (he/she) - ewî/ewê
em - me
hûn - we
ewana - ewan
Yes, I was "Johny Bravo".
Cool, I didn't know that "ewya" for "she" exists.
the first we need now is to learn our own languages right and full (or dialects) and minimize the use of turkish (or arabic, persian). we must read newspapers and book on our own language.
I agree.
Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:36 pm
Author: kurd-sthanam
Johny English wrote:Cool, I didn't know that "ewya" for "she" exists.
yes we use it but not so much, only for pointing for example a woman you see or a feminin thing.
we use also: va / vîya (this masc. or feminin)
Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:39 pm
Author: jjmuneer
We say 'Jina' for lady.
'Pyaga' for man.
Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:45 pm
Author: kurd-sthanam
our izafe system is like zazakî not the standard kurmancî.
-ê and î for masculin
-a and -ê for feminin
-ê and -i for plural
-ini for "some"
but even if this is more archaic, it will be bad for an kurmanci standard or kurdish standard because the minority use this.
Jin = woman
Mêr / zilam = man
pyaxşix = handsome
Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:03 pm
Author: Johny English
I'm for the grammer and the vowels of the modern Kurmanji and Sorani with the consonants of the older dialects/languages.
Like "mekem" instead of "dekem" (like in Laki), bu not "mekerem" like in Hawrami.
Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:06 pm
Author: Johny English
jjmuneer wrote:We say 'Jina' for lady.
'Pyaga' for man.
Yes, it comes from Old Iranian -â, in Zazaki kept as -e like in roje "day".
Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:34 pm
Author: kurd-sthanam
Johny English wrote:I'm for the grammer and the vowels of the modern Kurmanji and Sorani with the consonants of the older dialects/languages.
Like "mekem" instead of "dekem" (like in Laki), bu not "mekerem" like in Hawrami.
we have already a mix of all dialects wich sounds like all dialects. şêxbizinî in anatolia

Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:39 pm
Author: jjmuneer
Johny English wrote:jjmuneer wrote:We say 'Jina' for lady.
'Pyaga' for man.
Yes, it comes from Old Iranian -â, in Zazaki kept as -e like in roje "day".
yeh we also say Roje. For night we say 'Showe'.
Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:41 pm
Author: jjmuneer
Do other speakers say 'Tu chejhed?' for 'what are you saying'?
Re: Unified Kurdish - your ideas

Posted:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:55 pm
Author: Johny English
It's probably a swallowed version of *tu ci wejhíd.
wejh- is the steme for "say" in southern Kurdish dialects.