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Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:35 pm
Author: hevalo27
do you know some pre-indoiranien words in the kurdish language(s)?

i know "gund" for village

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:39 pm
Author: brendar
Why would you want to know "iranian" words?

these are fascist people and you shouldn't even make a subject about them!

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:56 pm
Author: hevalo27
brendar wrote:Why would you want to know "iranian" words?

these are fascist people and you shouldn't even make a subject about them!


not persian words, iranian words, kurdish is also an iranian language.

but i wrote pre-iranian, my english is not good, i thought it means words older than iranic.

kurds are the oldest civilisation in north-mesopoatamia and southeast-anatolia, so in our language must be pre-iranian words.

gund for village is one of them, a very old world

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:21 pm
Author: jjmuneer
brendar wrote:Why would you want to know "iranian" words?

these are fascist people and you shouldn't even make a subject about them!

How is Iranian and Indo-Iranian even the same thing?

Indo-Iranian:
Indo-Iranian peoples are a linguistic group consisting of the Indo-Aryan, Iranian, Dardic and Nuristani peoples; that is, speakers of Indo-Iranian languages, a major branch of the Indo-European language family.

The Proto-Indo-Iranians are commonly identified with the descendants of the Proto-Indo-Europeans known as the Andronovo culture and their homeland with an area of the Eurasian steppe that borders the Ural River on the west, the Tian Shan on the east.


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Iranian:
Iranian or Persian people who are persons from the nation of Iran/Persia, or of Iranian descent. For more information about the people of Iran also see Demographics of Iran

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:23 pm
Author: jjmuneer
hevalo27 wrote:
brendar wrote:Why would you want to know "iranian" words?

these are fascist people and you shouldn't even make a subject about them!


not persian words, iranian words, kurdish is also an iranian language.

but i wrote pre-iranian, my english is not good, i thought it means words older than iranic.

kurds are the oldest civilisation in north-mesopoatamia and southeast-anatolia, so in our language must be pre-iranian words.

gund for village is one of them, a very old world

I think rather the Kurmanji and Sorani probably has more pre-indo European words in its language, as opposed to Gorani-Dimili. I think its because they historically and geographically have been where the Hurrians were.

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:07 pm
Author: Johny English
"gund" is an iranic word, look to Paul Horns etymology book:

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:50 pm
Author: jjmuneer
Johny English wrote:"gund" is an iranic word, look to Paul Horns etymology book:

We say Gun for Penis lol.

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:03 pm
Author: Kawe
jjmuneer wrote:
Johny English wrote:"gund" is an iranic word, look to Paul Horns etymology book:

We say Gun for Penis lol.


It is the same for us lol! However, we still use Gund for village.

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:11 am
Author: Kurdistano
Kîr is penis in Kurmanji.

legal for saying in Sorani is possibly pre Iranic.

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:48 am
Author: hevalo27
Kurdistano wrote:legal for saying in Sorani is possibly pre Iranic.


legal, hmmm :-?
never heard, could be

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:56 pm
Author: Johny English
It is believed that "kanî" (fountain), Sanskrit k(h)én is from an non-aryan language.

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:31 am
Author: hevalo27
Johny English wrote:It is believed that "kanî" (fountain), Sanskrit k(h)én is from an non-aryan language.


what is with "mezin" for big/huge/large? in persian they say bozorg

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:30 pm
Author: Kurdistano
hevalo27 wrote:
Johny English wrote:It is believed that "kanî" (fountain), Sanskrit k(h)én is from an non-aryan language.


what is with "mezin" for big/huge/large? in persian they say bozorg


Mezin is related to the Greek word Mega for huge.

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:23 pm
Author: jjmuneer
hevalo27 wrote:
Johny English wrote:It is believed that "kanî" (fountain), Sanskrit k(h)én is from an non-aryan language.


what is with "mezin" for big/huge/large? in persian they say bozorg

We say 'Gep'.

Re: Pre-Indoiranian Words in Kurdish

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:00 am
Author: Johny English
Iranian "mésh" for "sheep" can be from Akkadian "mash" 'goat'.