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Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:17 pm
Author: Shere Medya
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Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:52 pm
Author: brendar
Off course they should merge all the dialects. We need a united language that every kurd understands each other.

Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:45 am
Author: alan131210
It's a yes for me KAK Massod is workIng on this

Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:02 am
Author: kurd-sthanam
IE words are not important. even DAYIK and BAV are non-indo european words. kurdish is kurdish not english, persian or latin. if kurds use an arabic loanword it gives no sence to replace it with english words.

it will sound real shit: Be sacrificet bim (be qurbanit bim) :smile:

yes i support merging.

Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:32 am
Author: ideas
Yes please!

Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:30 am
Author: Shere Medya
kurd-sthanam wrote:IE words are not important. even DAYIK and BAV are non-indo european words. kurdish is kurdish not english, persian or latin. if kurds use an arabic loanword it gives no sence to replace it with english words.

it will sound real shit: Be sacrificet bim (be qurbanit bim) :smile:

yes i support merging.


lol, maybe we should make up new words that isn't used in any other language :)

Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:03 am
Author: talsor
I think it is a great idea and it will totally purify Kurdish language from all foreign words . In order for me to speak pure kurdish I always mix sorani and Kurmanji and it comes out beautiful :-D . Dialects certainly will remain within the regions , but we must standardize the language .

Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:55 pm
Author: Kurdistano
kurd-sthanam wrote:IE words are not important. even DAYIK and BAV are non-indo european words. kurdish is kurdish not english, persian or latin. if kurds use an arabic loanword it gives no sence to replace it with english words.

it will sound real shit: Be sacrificet bim (be qurbanit bim) :smile:

yes i support merging.



Were do you got that from? Bavik is Indo-European and was used by Parthians. Dayik comes from Proto-Iranic Dayanova and means originally to "breast-feed".

Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:15 pm
Author: jjmuneer
talsor wrote:I think it is a great idea and it will totally purify Kurdish language from all foreign words . In order for me to speak pure kurdish I always mix sorani and Kurmanji and it comes out beautiful :-D . Dialects certainly will remain within the regions , but we must standardize the language .

Lol that is exactly what I do with my fayli, I add sorani words in it.

Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:48 pm
Author: unitedkurdistan
What if all kurds in school would learn the two major dialects Sorani and Kurmanci. Lets say a word in Sorani is arabic and there isn't a sorani word for it than we just take the kurdish word of it through another kurdish dialect. Because I don't want to lose the richness/purity of the beautiful diverse kurdish language. Now lets say if a foreigner or someone would like to learn kurdish that person only needs to learn one of the major dialects. And for those who would like to educate themselves in more advancedkurdish, they can do that through university. Then they will learn and study the other dialects like Zazaki, Hewrami, Faylî, Laki..........etc through classes in university. Here in Sweden and many other countries when you come to 7th grade students can choose a third language to learn like french, german, spanish or english B now in Kurdistan we could do the same except we could include a kurdish dialect. So in case you are in origin a zazaki speaker but havn't learnt and you want to learn it, you can learn it in school :-D Fair for everyone and we will preserve the richness of the kurdish language.

Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:39 pm
Author: Bestoun
When i went to italy they told me that every city had it's own dialect.. I bought a special kind of pizza in one city and when I wanted to buy the same pizza in the other city, but they didn't know what I was talking about.. So my italian friend told me that they had a different word for the pizza in this city. Every city had it's own dialect but they still had the "Italian-language".
In Sweden the stockholm dialect became the main language while the northern, western and southern is still preserved. The stockholm dialect is a bit different than what it was before it became the main language.

It is important that we preserve the kurdish dialects, but still make a unified language.
So the question is.. which dialect will be the main kurdish language? Or will we make a a new unified language?

And another question.. will we have latin alphabet or arabic alphabet? I have been told that the arabic alphabet is more perfected for the kurdish language than the latin (the latin is missing in some parts). Naser Razazi, Sherko Bekes and some more language knowers are working against Yekgirtú alphabet because of this.

As far as the arabic word I don't think we should replace them with new made-up words because of that it's nowadays a part of the kurdish language.. If on the other hand there is a kurdish word from another kurdish dialect we should use that one!

Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:08 pm
Author: Ram
I guess it should be like Arabic; there are dozens of distinct Arabic dialects but any Arab from Morocco to Oman can communicate through MSA (Modern Standard Arabic which is the official form of Arabic taught in schools and used in media).

Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:16 pm
Author: jjmuneer
unitedkurdistan wrote:What if all kurds in school would learn the two major dialects Sorani and Kurmanci. Lets say a word in Sorani is arabic and there isn't a sorani word for it than we just take the kurdish word of it through another kurdish dialect. Because I don't want to lose the richness/purity of the beautiful diverse kurdish language. Now lets say if a foreigner or someone would like to learn kurdish that person only needs to learn one of the major dialects. And for those who would like to educate themselves in more advancedkurdish, they can do that through university. Then they will learn and study the other dialects like Zazaki, Hewrami, Faylî, Laki..........etc through classes in university. Here in Sweden and many other countries when you come to 7th grade students can choose a third language to learn like french, german, spanish or english B now in Kurdistan we could do the same except we could include a kurdish dialect. So in case you are in origin a zazaki speaker but havn't learnt and you want to learn it, you can learn it in school :-D Fair for everyone and we will preserve the richness of the kurdish language.

Fayli is Laki and vice versa mate.

Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:40 pm
Author: Bestoun
unitedkurdistan wrote:What if all kurds in school would learn the two major dialects Sorani and Kurmanci. Lets say a word in Sorani is arabic and there isn't a sorani word for it than we just take the kurdish word of it through another kurdish dialect. Because I don't want to lose the richness/purity of the beautiful diverse kurdish language. Now lets say if a foreigner or someone would like to learn kurdish that person only needs to learn one of the major dialects. And for those who would like to educate themselves in more advancedkurdish, they can do that through university. Then they will learn and study the other dialects like Zazaki, Hewrami, Faylî, Laki..........etc through classes in university. Here in Sweden and many other countries when you come to 7th grade students can choose a third language to learn like french, german, spanish or english B now in Kurdistan we could do the same except we could include a kurdish dialect. So in case you are in origin a zazaki speaker but havn't learnt and you want to learn it, you can learn it in school :-D Fair for everyone and we will preserve the richness of the kurdish language.


As you said in Sweden you get to learn a new LANGUAGE in 7th grade. I can imagine that you can study these different dialects in one course, that being kurdish. But we need to unify the major dialects and still preserve the dialects like they have done in sweden.. For example they speak with Skåne, Göteborg etc. dialects in Skåne and Göteborg. But they still have the main Swedish language. Skåne is an own dialect and not just swedish with a different accent. So the swedish people managed to create a unified language while still preserving the different dialects.

Tack för mig! :)

Re: Merge all Kurdish languages!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:58 pm
Author: unitedkurdistan
Bestoun wrote:
unitedkurdistan wrote:What if all kurds in school would learn the two major dialects Sorani and Kurmanci. Lets say a word in Sorani is arabic and there isn't a sorani word for it than we just take the kurdish word of it through another kurdish dialect. Because I don't want to lose the richness/purity of the beautiful diverse kurdish language. Now lets say if a foreigner or someone would like to learn kurdish that person only needs to learn one of the major dialects. And for those who would like to educate themselves in more advancedkurdish, they can do that through university. Then they will learn and study the other dialects like Zazaki, Hewrami, Faylî, Laki..........etc through classes in university. Here in Sweden and many other countries when you come to 7th grade students can choose a third language to learn like french, german, spanish or english B now in Kurdistan we could do the same except we could include a kurdish dialect. So in case you are in origin a zazaki speaker but havn't learnt and you want to learn it, you can learn it in school :-D Fair for everyone and we will preserve the richness of the kurdish language.


As you said in Sweden you get to learn a new LANGUAGE in 7th grade. I can imagine that you can study these different dialects in one course, that being kurdish. But we need to unify the major dialects and still preserve the dialects like they have done in sweden.. For example they speak with Skåne, Göteborg etc. dialects in Skåne and Göteborg. But they still have the main Swedish language. Skåne is an own dialect and not just swedish with a different accent. So the swedish people managed to create a unified language while still preserving the different dialects.

Tack för mig! :)


I live in Skåne and the difference between the dialect in Skåne and Göteborg is very very small, it's not like the diversity in kurdish dialects. Someone from Skåne will understand someone from Göteborg 100% but someone who speaks Laki may not understand someone who speaks Kurmanji.