Al Jazeera: Best bet: Dividing Iraq

[Piling]

Who cares on majority of Arabs in Mousl or Ninawa i dont give a shit to arabs.

who tried to arabizie my nation.

well you say it we should do it like israelis did or still does it.

get out the arabs get in the Assyrians.

But in that case, as I said, claiming without acting is useless. Take guns and go to war. Because you have to expell them. An good luck

[Rumtaya]

But in that case, as I said, claiming without acting is useless. Take guns and go to war. Because you have to expell them. An good luck

Once again i ask you who tells you that Assyrians dont act?????

Did you overread it that i wrote Assyrians fight within Peshmerga fighters.

My nation miss attantion we are know to the mediens only as iraq Christians.

There is no suppourting for us.

Instead of that kurds are suppourted since 30 years by Israelis and now the US suppourts them.

Our voice they ignore but why i ask my self hmm do they fear we wouldnt sell them cheap oil yes i think thats so.

and one more map extra for you pilling

[Piling]

Very nice painting, but nothing else... What is reality on the ground ? Did you ever go in Iraq ?

[Rumtaya]

Where did i go to Iraq hmm Iraq in assyrian means land hmm which land do you mean?

my ancorst homeland???? well i was born in syria better said in northen syria at the khabour river so hmm i was in my homeland but no not on the other side of the neighbour state of syria what is it called hmm i dont know.

but sure ill fly to the land(iraq) the northernwest and middle part is a part of my homeland.

[Piling]

So you are from Syria... hum... do you think that Hasaké or Dayr al Zor are "Assyrian" too ? you like hard job !
Your family is originated from Syria or your grand-grand-father came in Western part after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire ?

[Rumtaya]

I am an Eastern Assyrians in dialect Eastern Assyrians used to live till the year of 1915 in Southeast turkey(Hakkari Area) northern iraq and northwest iran(urmia area).

ok the Western Assyrians in dialect use to live in South east turkey in the near of the Syrian border and they use to live in Northeast Syria Qamishly,Hassake.

Ok now my grandfather/mother were born in the hakkari mountains after the genozid alot of Assyrians were killed and assimilated.

ok so then that who survived went to iraq under the save of the british mandat ok that was ok till the year of 1933 as a village was attacked which is calles semele 3000 innocent people killed by the hand of the Iraq Army.

so again Assyrians fleed some went back to turkey and alot those who are now at the khabour 35 assyrians village are there till now there have been fleed some more but alot went back to iraq and some stayed there.
this 35 assyrian villages are all eastern dialects.

the western live in the cities. in qamishly is an quarter called Assyrian area.

and so my perants were born there and i was bron in northen syria.

thats it.

[Piling]

So you are a Christian Moutainer from Hakkari. Interesting. Last month, in the review of Kurdology "Etudes kurdes" an article has been published about their history : "Les Assyro-Chaldéens de Perse et du Hakkari : des migrations à l'exil (1835-1935)"; but in French, too bad for English speakers !

[Rumtaya]

Well not really a Christian Mountainer like i said assyrians lived there from 1300 as the mongolians came and we have been used to flee to the hakkari mountain of Kurdia.

Till the year of 1915 then we fleed these places cause of the genozid.

so nope my origins are still from todays northern Iraq.

what was it about??

About the live on the Assyrians in the Hakkari mountains or about what?

I dont even know the Hakkari mountains i have never been there but i want to visit the place of my grandparents.

We had alot of earth there my Clan

[kurdistani]

What you want to do with all Kurds not living in the "mountains". Qamishlo is 100% Kurdish now.. Hakkari too..

Qamishlo is Kurdish dominated but there are a number of Assyrians and other Christian nationalities....

[Rumtaya]

Can be but before 20 years there have been less kurds and majority was arab then assyrians.

[Vladimir]

Can be but before 20 years there have been less kurds and majority was arab then assyrians.

Arabs?? Arabasized Assyrians or you really mean Arabs?

[Rumtaya]

Arabs there have been some there are still arabs.

and arabisied assyrians yes too. and normal assyrians

[Piling]

By the way 80% of current "arab land" in the Near-East were originally inhabited by Aramean speaker people (except Copts). They had not been assimilated or islamized by force, it was just the influence of establishment class in urban centers... as in 80% of France Celtic language had been replaced by "Latin dialect" (excpet in Bretagne but Tom and his people are obstinate characters..)

And I wonder why, you, Assyrian and Chaldeans and all you want don't call yourselves "ARAMEAN" or "SYRIAC". Because the strongest characteristic of your people is to speak Aramean, not "assyrian". And a reference to that language will erase some religious difference as "orthodox Assyrian" vs "Catholic Chaldeans". Moreover, your language is the most precious inheritage that you have to preserve.

[Rumtaya]

my dear Pilling

Aramean land is westward of the euphrat river!


why on hell should we call ourselve Arameans??????

i am not stupid do change my identiy and take another.

you can see the whole middleast share some similars to the aramic langauge.

i can sometimes understand what israelis says the same to arabs but hebrew language share more similars with ours.

but i dont talk aramic i talk syriac thats something else its a Akkadian with aramic influnce.

so noo to Aramean or Syriac.

I am ASSYRIAN in Nation and Nestorian in domination there are chaldean and syriac orthdox too in religous domination.

you got it we all are ASSYRIANS!

and we claim on Assyria and not on Aramea or what ever.


A S S Y R I A and A S S Y R I A N S


BASTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Piling]

But Syriac is not an Eastern dialect of Aramaic ? ARE you sure ??? I guess that Syriac is nearer of Aramaic than Akkadian...