A religious to a journalist : I'll find a man for you !

[KabirKuhi]

This will obviously come as a big surprise to you - but not all Iraqis or Kurds actually remain in the their country of origin

I know it will be a revelation to you when I tell you that there are Kurds and even Iraqis in ENGLAND

You will also be surprised to learn that most return home to Iraq/Kurdistan on an almost annual basis

Once in Iraq/Kurdistan It is not at all unusual for them to arrange marriages between their daughtersand older males - especially if the girls are British born

I think that there are also families from Iraq/Kurdistan in France

There are Kurdish communities in the west. But they're not part of civil society. They're not French or British, they're not assimilated to western culture, nor are they ethnically english/french. Their culture doesn't mesh with the french/british culture and the majority stay out of political/cultural life pertaining to those countries unlike other groups. They don't make their countries of origin relevant to you in any way. When iraqis and Kurds begin having substantial political and cultural influence on your societies, then we can talk. Kurdish buisness must stay kurdish buisness. They'll deal with their problems domestically.

[Piling]

This morning, on Twitter, from a Turk to an AFP non-French reporter :

This is why you shouldn't send a western woman to to discuss religious affairs with religious scholars. Funny that western journalists have nothing better to do then explore the marriage-law controversy.

Why do you care about kurd/middle-east issues? They're far away from france.

'Journalism & Studies allowed by DNA' is the Law of a certain International Brotherhood…

[KabirKuhi]

'Journalism & Studies allowed by DNA' is the Law of a certain International Brotherhood…

Which International brotherhood? Pan-turkic one? Kurdistan and Iraq are Kurdish and Iraqi states, they're supposed to represent the people there. I don't know what you find to be wrong with those statements. There are many other examples, f.ex Israel calls itself a Jewish folk state, for Jews. Russians frequently proclaim "Russia for Russians", the french calls itself a french state, which means that it serves the interests of the french or majority followers of french republicanism(I.T.C European descendent french).

I don't see how western globalist medias, who work hand in hand with other transnational western industries who have economical and political interests in the region, represent Kurdish or Iraqi interests. Doesn't matter if the medias employ local people or people from the diaspora. They're still following the directives of their employer. You don't change your interests, because you put a colored or ethnic faces as employees. In your country, there are policemen of African descent, who're employed by the french state, but persecute African youth. It doesn't make your interest more "african" or serving people of african descent. The french also employed hundreds of thousands of north-african and african soldiers, but they were not serving north-african and african interests, they were fighting in a war irrelevant to them. They were simply serving their european french employers. Western medias don't serve our interests, why should they work there? They make money working in countries they don't respect and don't care about. They shouldn't be there if they can't remain politically or culturally neutral.

[Piling]

Which International brotherhood? Pan-turkic one?

No, just pan-Anti-mudblood. Or mudblood vs mudbrain if you prefer.

[KabirKuhi]

Which International brotherhood? Pan-turkic one?

No, just pan-Anti-mudblood. Or mudblood vs mudbrain if you prefer.

You have the wrong impression. I don't put any primary importance on genetics. If I did, i'm sure more than 40% of all kurds would not qualify as kurds(we're less mixed than our neighbours, but we're not pure by any longshot). What I do put a primary importance is furthering kurdish interests and good-will towards our neighbours. Even someone genetically western can become Kurdish, but they rarely do, because they look at Kurds and west-Asians as inferior. I don't know how many times I see references to "sandniggers", " muslim subhumans" or "nuke and exterminate people from middle-east" when I browse any items, articles or videos related to kurds or other middle-easterners on western media. Written by people from the west. Why should we allow people with such a mindset, even if less extreme, come to our countries, and make deals with a corrupt government, exactly? Your politicians stem from the same tradition and perceptions as these people. Why should we let you work for your benefit, when you don't even have a single ounce of respect for our people?

[Anthea]

There are Kurdish communities in the west. But they're not part of civil society. They're not French or British, they're not assimilated to western culture, nor are they ethnically english/french. Their culture doesn't mesh with the french/british culture and the majority stay out of political/cultural life pertaining to those countries unlike other groups. They don't make their countries of origin relevant to you in any way. When iraqis and Kurds begin having substantial political and cultural influence on your societies, then we can talk. Kurdish buisness must stay kurdish buisness. They'll deal with their problems domestically.

How little you really know

Kurdish buisness must stay kurdish buisness. They'll deal with their problems domestically.

Iraqis and Kurds living in countries such as England and France (and elsewhere in the world) are legally obliged top comply with the laws of those countries.

As I previously mentioned "Children who have been born in the UK have sometimes been taken to their parents country and forced into marriage"

Some of these underage girls/young teenagers approach the police of countries such as France and England asking for help because they fear their parents will force them into arrange marriages.

[KabirKuhi]

How little you really know
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I know more than you about kurds and iraqis, because i meet them everyday.

Iraqis and Kurds living in countries such as England and France (and elsewhere in the world) are legally obliged top comply with the laws of those countries.

As I previously mentioned "Children who have been born in the UK have sometimes been taken to their parents country and forced into marriage"

Some of these underage girls/young teenagers approach the police of countries such as France and England asking for help because they fear their parents will force them into arrange marriages.

We're not obliged to culturally loaded laws, since we provide you with cheap oil and don't impose ourselves on your cultural/political life. Our governments bend their asshole to your economical benefit(while totally ignoring their own peoples economical problems), what more do you want? We're not changing our culture for you. I don't agree with the marital law, but it's up to people in those countries to change it, not you.

[Anthea]

Even someone genetically western can become Kurdish, but they rarely do, because they look at Kurds and west-Asians as inferior. I don't know how many times I see references to "sandniggers", " muslim subhumans" or "nuke and exterminate people from middle-east" when I browse any items, articles or videos related to kurds or other middle-easterners on western media. Written by people from the west. Why should we allow people with such a mindset, even if less extreme, come to our countries? And make deals with a corrupt government, exactly?

The following terms "sandniggers", " muslim subhumans" or "nuke and exterminate people from middle-east" should NOT be used in this forum because they enforce a negative stereotype that Kurds and other middle-eastern peoples have been trying to combat for years.

Other than you having written "sandniggers", " muslim subhumans" or "nuke and exterminate people from middle-east" I have NEVER before seen or heard these terms.

If you are really Kurdish why would you want to spread such negativity

[KabirKuhi]

Even someone genetically western can become Kurdish, but they rarely do, because they look at Kurds and west-Asians as inferior. I don't know how many times I see references to "sandniggers", " muslim subhumans" or "nuke and exterminate people from middle-east" when I browse any items, articles or videos related to kurds or other middle-easterners on western media. Written by people from the west. Why should we allow people with such a mindset, even if less extreme, come to our countries? And make deals with a corrupt government, exactly?

The following terms "sandniggers", " muslim subhumans" or "nuke and exterminate people from middle-east" should NOT be used in this forum because they enforce a negative stereotype that Kurds and other middle-eastern peoples have been trying to combat for years.

Other than you having written "sandniggers", " muslim subhumans" or "nuke and exterminate people from middle-east" I have NEVER before seen or heard these terms.

If you are really Kurdish why would you want to spread such negativity

Don't ask me... ask the western public who make such comments and have such opinions. You must really living under a rock if you think this isn't used.

[Anthea]

How little you really know
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I know more than you about kurds and iraqis, because i meet them everyday.

Iraqis and Kurds living in countries such as England and France (and elsewhere in the world) are legally obliged top comply with the laws of those countries.

As I previously mentioned "Children who have been born in the UK have sometimes been taken to their parents country and forced into marriage"

Some of these underage girls/young teenagers approach the police of countries such as France and England asking for help because they fear their parents will force them into arrange marriages.

We're not obliged to culturally loaded laws, since we provide you with cheap oil and don't impose ourselves on your cultural/political life. Our governments bend their asshole to your economical benefit(while totally ignoring their own peoples economical problems), what more do you want? We're not changing our culture for you. I don't agree with the marital law, but it's up to people in those countries to change it, not you.

That was NOT a response that was a MINDLESS RANT

I know more than you about kurds and iraqis, because i meet them everyday.

Strange response

I myself meet Kurds everyday

"meet them everyday" is not something a Kurd would say

A Kurd would say "I know more than you about kurds and iraqis, because I am a KURD"

And even then you would be wrong because in the entire world Piling is probably the only person who knows more about Kurds than I do

[KabirKuhi]

That was NOT a response that was a MINDLESS RANT

Nope it's a rant with opinions you don't like. There is nothing in cogent or mindless about it. The message is and logical as day. British oil prospectors, industry and security companies are given generous contracts in KRG and in Iraqi oilfields. The same goes for alot of western countries. They're de-facto not treated under kurdish or iraqi law, so if they break any laws, they're not persecuted(it rarely happens, i know of only 1 or 2 cases, and in both cases the perpetrators were responisble for causing death, or creating high risk for deaths). And not talking about the expatriate communities that are taking jobs that are supposed to be in iraqi and kurdish hands. With all these generous conditions, which is between states, why should kurds or Iraqis, who are kurds and iraqis in the first place, be subjected to arbitrary british laws which are instrusive about cultural/religious practices? You have the right to enforce laws on other groups, but you don't persecute your own?

Strange response

I myself meet Kurds everyday

"meet them everyday" is not something a Kurd would say

A Kurd would say "I know more than you about kurds and iraqis, because I am a KURD"

That's just a silly interpertation on your part. No i'm not a kurd, i'm a turkish agent sent by the turkish intelligence services to disseminate anti kurdish propaganda.

[Anthea]

No i'm not a kurd, i'm a turkish agent sent by the turkish intelligence services to disseminate anti kurdish propaganda.

YOU SAID IT NOT ME

All the Kurds I know are proud to be KURDISH stress the fact that they are KURDISH are proud of their KURDISH heritage and always say what part of KURDISTAN they or their family comes from

Whoever or whatever you are - I take no further interest in you - I am far too busy helping my GENUINE KURDISH FRIENDS in the real world to play mind games with idiots on-line

[KabirKuhi]

No i'm not a kurd, i'm a turkish agent sent by the turkish intelligence services to disseminate anti kurdish propaganda.

YOU SAID IT NOT ME

All the Kurds I know are proud to be KURDISH stress the fact that they are KURDISH are proud of their KURDISH heritage and always say what part of KURDISTAN they or their family comes from

Whoever or whatever you are - I take no further interest in you - I am far too busy helping my GENUINE KURDISH FRIENDS in the real world to play mind games with idiots on-line

Wow, you're very mature for your age. From what I've read, you must be in your late 50s, but you act like a teenager. Do you read anything i write, or do you just get stuck on the sentences which your 3 second attention span allows you? So because i don't buy into anti-middle-eastern hysteria BS from the west about issues ontaking in Iraq and Kurdistan, i'm an idiot. Sure. You live in some PC world lead by europeans, where everything is glittery and enlightened europeans are trying to save the backward savages from kurdistan and iraq from their culture. Get over yourself. People with this sort of arrogant attitude is the reason why no one in the middle-east respects you. How can anyone have a respectful dialogue with such uncouth arrogance?

So because i dont't tout and use fanfares about being kurdish, I must be not kurdish? What are you 10?