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The start Site of this Forum. It got a lie

PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:04 am

I just saw the first site of that forum and i have to say you guys are lieing abit arent you?? Your making the whole Northen Iraq or better said Northen Mesopotamia as Southern Kurdistan that is really dissapointing arent you friends of the Assyrians????? Why such a lie??? do you deny us like the Turks deny Kurds??


Northern Iraq
is invalid .

please update your brain it is Southern Kurdistan.
the word, "Northern Iraq" is only used by the enemy of the Kurds . like Baathists , If you are a Baathist, please contact the nearest American Marine and ask for the directions to Saddam's palace.
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so if i say Northern Iraq i am an Enemy in your eyes???

Please try the following:

Click the Change of Names, or try again later.

if you want to respect Kurds , please remember our land's name is Kurdistan not "northern iraq".


Why respect Kurds if Kurds dont respect others????

if your organization doesn't let you use "Southern Kurdistan" word, you can use "Iraqi occupied Kurdistan" or at least "Iraqi Kurdistan" .


its not only Southern Kurdistan!

If you a are member of the Turkish Homeland National Security Staff, get over it. It is Kurdistan not Northern Iraq.

If you are George W. Bush or Tony Blair and are trying to find an ultra-super-glue to hold Iraq together, try the Find Super Glue button, but don't try hard, it won't work.


Thats pretty right

If you think we are too nationalist, please take a look at this and then ask your conscience's help , for more information look at the right sidebar.


To find out more about Kurdistan, visit Kudistanica or you can read one of these Kurd blogs in English.

To promote our campaign, get one of our products, we don't make any profits out of them. you can add our link to your site , here is logo's code :
<a href="http://northerniraq.info" title="northern iraq"><img src="http://northerniraq.info/northlogo.gif" width="135px" height="68px" alt="northern iraq"><br>northern iraq </a>


here is the list of the webstites/weblogs which likned to us .


You should also learn not to use :
"South Eastern Turkey", instead of Northern Kurdistan.
"Western Iran" ,instead of Eastern Kurdistan.
"Eastern Syria" , instead of Western Kurdistan.


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I am waiting for Answers thanks.

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PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:16 am

Oh my God, you give us some headaches. In any case, "Northern Iraq" is a joke, it is not more Kurdistan than Assyria... nor "Turkish mountainers are Kurds". Just a JOKE. So if you want to make a site called "Northern Iraq is invalid, call it Assyria", let's do it ! By the way Kurds are not obliged to promote your own nationalism, do it yourself !
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Re: The start Site of this Forum. It got a lie

PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:35 pm

so if i say Northern Iraq i am an Enemy in your eyes???


the start page is called google bomb , it is a way to inform peopel .

if you never knew that northern iraq is kurdistan and you use "northern iraq" word ...you are not enemy... but after seeing this website...you will know that northern iraq is kurdistan.

so if after seeing this website you insist on using northern iraq , then you will defenately offend to us ...and we wont love you so much :wink:
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:25 pm

the start page is called google bomb , it is a way to inform peopel .

if you never knew that northern iraq is kurdistan and you use "northern iraq" word ...you are not enemy... but after seeing this website...you will know that northern iraq is kurdistan.

so if after seeing this website you insist on using northern iraq , then you will defenately offend to us ...and we wont love you so much


I see but i dont call it Northern Iraq i call it Northern Mesopotamia or A S S Y R I A. and of that Northern Iraq the mountain regions inkluding halabja, suleimeinyah are Kurdish Areas.

With that soluotion i would be fine :wink:

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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:29 pm

I see but i dont call it Northern Iraq i call it Northern Mesopotamia or A S S Y R I A. and of that Northern Iraq the mountain regions inkluding halabja, suleimeinyah are Kurdish Areas.

With that soluotion i would be fine :wink:


well this site just asks ppl not use that word...because we are sick of that word...belive me I heared that word more than 1000 times in news sites...I am pretty pretty sick of that word...

well at least norther mezopotamia is a newer name ... :wink: so no you are no my enemy....just those who Consecily use that word [in order to run away from using the word kurdistan... this is to change those ppl's mind.
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PostAuthor: heval » Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:20 pm

Rumtaya wrote:I see but i dont call it Northern Iraq i call it Northern Mesopotamia or A S S Y R I A. and of that Northern Iraq the mountain regions inkluding halabja, suleimeinyah are Kurdish Areas.

With that soluotion i would be fine :wink:



We call it SOUTHERN K U R D I S T A N because that is what it is. So I am sorry if that is offending but it is the whole concept of this site. I am surprised that you have never noticed it until now... :roll:
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:29 am

We call it SOUTHERN K U R D I S T A N because that is what it is. So I am sorry if that is offending but it is the whole concept of this site. I am surprised that you have never noticed it until now...



Then you act the same like Turkey does act against Kurds denying them and say those are Mountain Turks. No its not Southern Kurdistan not the whole Northern Iraq. The Mountain Area of the Zagros Mountains are Kurdish Area what is on the North East dont lie so much respect the truth.

I didnt see it before because i always came directly to the link for the Forum i have saved that so as a link. And last time i was wondering why it is called Northern Iraq and i went to the start page and saw that.

THE BIG LIE

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PostAuthor: heval » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:57 am

Rumtaya wrote:
We call it SOUTHERN K U R D I S T A N because that is what it is. So I am sorry if that is offending but it is the whole concept of this site. I am surprised that you have never noticed it until now...



Then you act the same like Turkey does act against Kurds denying them and say those are Mountain Turks. No its not Southern Kurdistan not the whole Northern Iraq. The Mountain Area of the Zagros Mountains are Kurdish Area what is on the North East dont lie so much respect the truth.

I didnt see it before because i always came directly to the link for the Forum i have saved that so as a link. And last time i was wondering why it is called Northern Iraq and i went to the start page and saw that.

THE BIG LIE


First of all, the "north" is a very vague way to describe something. We are not considering the Ninveh plains as "north iraq" or Southern Kurdistan, so relax. We do consider SOUTHERN KURDISTAN to be Duhok to Hewler to Silemani to KERKUK and the cities in between and near by. We are not denying anyone anything... those are Kurdish cities and they are part of Southern Kurdistan.
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PostAuthor: Mosul » Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:24 am

well said heval

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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:36 pm

First of all, the "north" is a very vague way to describe something. We are not considering the Ninveh plains as "north iraq" or Southern Kurdistan, so relax. We do consider SOUTHERN KURDISTAN to be Duhok to Hewler to Silemani to KERKUK and the cities in between and near by. We are not denying anyone anything... those are Kurdish cities and they are part of Southern Kurdistan.


Nineveh Plains your saying something else have a look at the kurdish map for southern kurdistan:

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Do you see that map??? I guess yes do you see how much the Kurdish Goverment wants to be as Southern Kurdistan and do you notice that there are the cities of Assyria. Do you see that you took the Nineveh Plains i guess you do pretty good.


And look at this map:

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This is what is mostly Southern Kurdistan not that you take kirkuk and by the way Arbil is also not Kurdish.

ArbaElu its called not Hewler.


I am wating for your answer and have a good look at the first map. And then just read again what you wrote.[/list]

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PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:04 pm

Yeah of course. Then raise an army and let's conquest Hewlêr. Good luck.
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:11 pm

Yeah of course. Then raise an army and let's conquest Hewlêr. Good luck.



Sorry i am a person who thinks war wont bring you far it will bring you near to the end. Why should i raise an Assyrian army and have a conquest for my land for my cities?

I am sure that those all well be done without killing inocent people Assyrians are on the way of anti war and share the wise answer of love your next like yourself. The Assyrians will be given their land by those who took it away and gaved it to others the same countries will say here Assyrians raise your Assyrian Flags on these lands in this cities those are yours.

It wont be tomorrow or in one year or in teen years but it will be so.

I just can say if Kurds are friends of truth and love and peace you woudlnt call ArbaElu Hewler and you wouldnt take those lands of Assyrians but more and more i see i had a wrong mind of Kurds they are like they always have been and that sometimes makes me really sad.


One Kurd i know of you all is Diri i have to say this person is very kind and he tries to make peace but the sad truth is the most of Kurds dont want that and the devloper of that systems are your leaders.

God help every human in this world to find his peace.

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PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:28 pm

Be serious : how many Assyrians lived in Hewlêr in the 19th century ? in the 16th century ? In the Middle-Ages ? Arab travelers in the 12th century went and described Hewlêr as a Kurdish city. Was there a genocide of Assyrians before islam ?

If you read the Ottoman census at the end of the 19th century (BEFORE the genocide) you could have some surprises concerning the Christian population. Do you think that they were in majority ?
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:33 pm

Rumtaya...

I just can say if Kurds are friends of truth and love and peace you woudlnt call ArbaElu Hewler


What do you mean? Are English enemies of truth and love and peace just because they call German city "Köln" for "Cologne"? :?

München or Münich? Which one is it?

Come on... This is too much...

Look - Assyrian nationalist are the same way - they want parts of Kurdistan... So what is your point?
Of course we will call it South Kurdistan - instead of North Iraq...

But South Kurdistan doesn't, in my mind - mean the same as Assyria - because I think Assyria is on the Nineveh plains + some more places...

I couldn't see the first map you posted... What is it?

Let me ask you - WHAT IS BEST (?) :

1) Assyria be a part of Secular Federal Kurdistan Region

or

2) Assyria be a part of Islamic Federal Iraq Region?
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PostAuthor: heval » Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:21 pm

Rumtaya wrote:I just can say if Kurds are friends of truth and love and peace you woudlnt call ArbaElu Hewler and you wouldnt take those lands of Assyrians but more and more i see i had a wrong mind of Kurds they are like they always have been and that sometimes makes me really sad.


We call it Hewlêr, you call it ArbaElu. We call it Kurdistan, you call it Assyria. This is really a never ending debate :roll: The fact of the matter is that we still consider Hewlêr as part of Southern Kurdistan.

According to many Assyrian maps, Jerusalem is part of Assyria as well... Are you ready to claim that land too? You claim that the lands of Kurds rest in the mountains... the mountains were indeed a resting point of our Median ancestors. However, we claim that our ancestory comes from more than just the Medes and our ancient ancestors before the Medes had kingdoms stretching far beyond the mountains.
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