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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:51 pm

by the way , are these peopel kurd , they look like assyrian or may be yezedi...
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I say they are kurd, not assyrian...becasue they are dancing from left to right..[assyrians dance right to left] but I guess they are ezedi...
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PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:55 pm

Strange feathers on their heads, they seem to work for Crazy Horse or Moulin Rouge :shock:
Are you sure they are Kurds ? I see no green/red/yellow in the landscape. Only red and blue, nearer to Assyrians ?
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:13 pm

Piling wrote:Strange feathers on their heads, they seem to work for Crazy Horse or Moulin Rouge :shock:
Are you sure they are Kurds ? I see no green/red/yellow in the landscape. Only red and blue, nearer to Assyrians ?


yeah thats why I dobt they be kurd... but I have heared that assyrians dance in opposite side to the kurds....[right to left] these ppl are dancing left to right...

only rumtaya can tel us if they are assyrian.. :wink:
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PostAuthor: Diri » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:06 pm

No need for Rumtaya...

Those are Assyrians... Not Kurds... BUT - the MEN are wearing Kurdish clothes from Colemêrg - and Dyaoko - Kurds in Colemêrg - danced and SOME still DO dance from right to left...

You can't tell what they are by what way they dance! HAHA! :lol: There are MANY different ways of dancing... And in some places of Kurdistan they dance from Right to Left and some Left to Right - in FACT - the Right to Left is a more Kurmancî thing... Soranî dance from Left to Right... And since South Kurdistan is the place the NEW Cultural Renaissance - so after maybe 4000 hours of Kurdistan TV and KurdSAT with Kurds dancing from Left to Right - people have been affected... WE HAVE... Because WE - just years back - danced the OTHER way - but when we learned more Soranî styles - we slowly started dancing the Kurmancî ones that way too... :roll:

Anyway - just wanted to say - That those people are Assyrians - and that their clothes especialy the MEN'S clothes are VERY Kurdish...
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PostAuthor: ChiChalok » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:59 am

dyaoko wrote:
ChiChalok wrote:im voting tonight 8)


please do ,,,and encourage every Kurd there to vote....and also discourage others [arabs/turmens] not to vote :lol:


i have no right to do that =) i vote for whomever i want .. they vote for whom the want .. nwayz every vote counts :wink: i hope everyone voted .. it was so nice .. u know what .. there were buses full of ppl coming from other states to vote .. i loved that :D
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:51 am

Like Diri did say they are Assyrians!

And the two personon the left side are my relatives :D . The others i dont know.


We have dances from left to right and from right to left

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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:47 am

Peyamner : kurdihs officials voted with their family
http://peyamner.com/article.php?id=30385&lang=kurdish
Peyamner's Evidence ? this photo :

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has anybody ever seen barzani's wife ?
and I heared that Hero Ebrahim [wife of Talibani] voted in Kirkuk and Talibani voted in Slemani .whatever...

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that kurdish guy's hat is not nice...they had to choose a more handsome guy to send to bush. :roll:
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:53 am

IRAN SENDS TRUCK FULL OF FAKE VOTES TO IRAQ

http://peyamner.com/article.php?id=30303&lang=kurdish

Acording to Peyamner , the intirior minstery of iraq, has said they have found an oil truck coming from iran ,full of Fake votes to be used in iraqi ellection.

the driver has confessed there were more 3 turcks that already entered iraq,,,coalition forces are still searching for those trucks....

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PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:15 pm

THIS IS SHOCKING - And also nice...

15 Dec 2005
In North, Kurdistan Comes First, Iraq Comes Second

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ALTUN KOPRI, Iraq, Dec. 15 - As lines of voters snaked out of two polling stations along the main road, and as celebratory gunfire resounded through the neighborhood, a group of children chanted Kurdish songs and waved Kurdish flags as they barreled through the middle of this village.

By all appearances here, today's elections for national parliamentary seats may as well have been about Kurdistan and Kurdish dreams. Iraq, or the idea of Iraq, seemed as distant as the moon.

"I will vote for 730," Fakhri Muhammad, 32, said as he stood in line outside the village's primary school, referring to the ballot number of the main Kurdish coalition. "The list is Kurdish, and it represents the Kurdish people."

So went the refrain throughout much of the north, with Kurdish voters shying away from Arab candidates and siding only with Kurdish groups, particularly the Kurdistan Alliance, the coalition made up of the two main Kurdish parties. It was a stark illustration of how much the vote across Iraq had split along ethnic and sectarian lines. For many Kurds, a vote for the Kurdistan Alliance was first and foremost a bid to secure autonomy for the mountainous Kurdish homeland in the north, and only secondarily a vote for the general welfare of Iraq.

Political fervor was especially rampant here in dry, windswept Tamim Province, whose capital is Kirkuk, 15 miles south of Altun Kopri. Under Saddam Hussein's rule, the government deported Kurds and Turkmens and moved in Arabs in order to better control the oil fields. Kurdish leaders have made no secret of their desire to incorporate Kirkuk and other parts of the province into Kurdistan, rather than allowing the central government to administrate it.

Having strong representation in the new Parliament can help achieve that, went the thinking of Kurdish voters.

"This entire area is Kurdistan; Kirkuk should go to Kurdistan," said Hussein Sadr, 74, as he shuffled out of a high school in Kirkuk, his index finger stained purple - a sign that he had voted - his eyes peering from behind thick glasses at the crowds of Kurds all around. "Kirkuk now and the people here are part of Kurdistan."

Near Mr. Sadr, minibuses filled with voters and adorned with Kurdish flags sat outside the high school.

(This is shocking:)It was unclear who had bused in the voters, and the scene seemed certain to confirm, at least for some Arabs and Turkmens that the Kurdish parties were indeed transporting voters from other provinces to boost their support here.

In Altun Kopri, a mixed Kurdish-Turkmen village whose name means "Golden Bridge" in the Turkmen language, electoral officials at two schools said that by 10:30 a.m., they had turned away a total of 400 people who did not have their names on voter rolls. Some may have just gone to the wrong school, but others may have been trying to vote illegally, the officials said. Ferman Abdullah, the official in charge of polling at the village high school, said the 200 turned away at his school, which had 3,500 registered voters, were primarily Kurds.

"That's the only problem we have right now," Mr. Abdullah said. "Their names weren't on the lists."

In the weeks leading up to the elections, this province had come under more scrutiny than any other because the Iraqi electoral commission had uncovered possible voter fraud. At the end of August, in the final two days of voter registration, 81,000 new names appeared on the province's registration lists, an increase far above the national average. Electoral officials announced earlier this week that many of the applications looked suspicious. They decided that any of the 81,000 showing up today would have to present extra documentation to prove his or her identity.

The surge in registration came from six registration centers, five of them in Kurdish areas, including one here in Altun Kopri.

At the village primary school, an electoral observer representing one of the Kurdish parties complained to a visiting American diplomat that too many Kurds were being turned away.

"They say, 'I came from this area, and Saddam kicked me out, and I can even show you my piece of land. And now I don't have the right to vote?"' said the observer, Rashad Wali.

A Sunni Arab observer outside the same school appeared more satisfied.

"The process is good, everybody is good and it's going very well," said Haithem Hashem, 25, a supporter of the Iraqi Consensus Front, a coalition of religious Sunni groups.

The 690,000 registered voters in this province had 47 choices on the ballot. Of those, 21 were aimed at appealing to Sunni Arab voters, who largely boycotted the vote last January for a transitional government. There was also more diversity this time around among the Kurdish choices - the Kurdistan Islamic Union broke off from the Kurdish coalition to run on its own. (Perhaps as a consequence, gunmen attacked five of its offices in the north earlier this month, killing two party members.)

A few voters stepped across ethnic and religious lines when they cast their ballots today, showing that maybe, just maybe, the prejudices here could be uprooted after all.

(This is nice:) "I voted for the Kurdistan Alliance," said Dina Awiya, 22, a Christian student standing in the courtyard of a polling center in Kirkuk. "We have a connection with the Kurds. We've lived with them since we were children. Until now, we've been one team."
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:22 pm

I have to correct your post

(This is nice:) "I voted for the Kurdistan Alliance," said Dina Awiya, 22, a Traitor Christian student standing in the courtyard of a polling center in Kirkuk. "We have a connection with the Kurds. We've lived with them since we were children. Until now, we've been one team."

I am more then 100% she is a Catholic Assyrians i would bet more then 1 mio. on it.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:27 pm

Rumtaya wrote:I have to correct your post

(This is nice:) "I voted for the Kurdistan Alliance," said Dina Awiya, 22, a Traitor Christian student standing in the courtyard of a polling center in Kirkuk. "We have a connection with the Kurds. We've lived with them since we were children. Until now, we've been one team."

I am more then 100% she is a Catholic Assyrians i would bet more then 1 mio. on it.


CORRECT MY POST???

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THAT IS AN ARTICLE - I DIDN'T WRITE IT - AND THE ARTICLE SAYS SHE IS "CHRISTIAN"... WHO SAID SHE IS ASSYRIAN, ARMENIAN OR WHATEVER???

WHAT THE...??? :?
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:28 pm

lool i know you didnt man i just correct it for my how she is in my eyes!


didn you read it TRAITOR

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PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:29 pm

Rumtaya wrote:lool i know you didnt man i just correct it for my how she is in my eyes!


didn you read it TRAITOR


Correct WHAT? This is STUPID... She is CHRISTIAN... Who CARES what denomination? And WHO THE HELL CARES IF SHE IS ASSYRIAN OR NOT???
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:32 pm

She is Traitor because instead of voting for her own nations parties she go vots for Kurdish List but thats normal for our Catholic Assyrians.

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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:55 pm

I think then that you would call "traitors" most of your "Assyrian" brothers, catholic or not, for lot of them chose Kurdistanî Alliance.

But how could you judge them ? They have the right to vote for the party they believe as the best for their community. You don't live in their country, you are not threatened by fanatic muslims or nationalist arabes. Very easy for you to criticize them, seeting comfortably in your armchair...

By the way in YOUR LIST there was the Iraqi Baathist flag, it was not a TRAITOR's choice ?
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