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PostAuthor: Piling » Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:40 am

Is this the man who suffered in an jail and of hunger starvation ???

Is it really his prison, Dyaoko ? My God ! Öcalan would be jealous !
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:10 am

I don't believe this is his prison. But I do know he taught English to people and that his situation was pretty good.
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:10 am

Those people who said he was tortured were really lying.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:25 am

Does he stay in Kurdistan or will he come back in Austria ?
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:32 pm

This was supposed to be the big human right abuse in Southern Kurdistan, so it's really good news :D

and I love his prison, my prep school dormitory in france was not that good, neither were my "flats" in first years of political school...
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:52 pm

tomjez wrote:This was supposed to be the big human right abuse in Southern Kurdistan, so it's really good news :D

and I love his prison, my prep school dormitory in france was not that good, neither were my "flats" in first years of political school...


he also got a lot of attention because of this ! I bet no time in his life he had been paid that much attention.

piling wrote:Does he stay in Kurdistan or will he come back in Austria ?

I dont think he would leave such a paradise, I bet Our Freedom Fighter Hero , would do his best to be arrested again and be paid attention again. he he.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:43 pm

The Austrian Foreign Ministry, Ursula Plassnik, who is too since January 1st the Chairman of Europe, stated her satisfaction concenring Qadir's liberation. But that dumby linked that to the decision of Austria of open a permanent representation office in BAGHDAD. "Mr Qadir's liberation shows that our decision is the good one".

Who cares of Baghdad in Kurdistan ??? When Austria open a representation in Hewlêr, then Kurds could congratulate Austria...
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:05 pm

yeah a french I would have understood, they can't understand that SOME decisions are not taken in the capital city
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PostAuthor: Piling » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:07 pm

Barzani should have put in jail Qadir another time, until Austria open a representation in Hewlêr ! :P
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:03 pm

Indeed. Let's ask Kemal if he wants to spent in prison longer. Maybe he wants to do it as an excuse or :roll: .
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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:07 am

Oh my God ! Barzani reads our forum ! :lol:


Nivîskarê kurd Dr. Kemal Seyid Qadir hîn di zindanê. Di rojên dawî ji aliyê ajansên nûçeyan ên cîhanî û beş,;ek ji medyaya kurdî ya nêzîkî PDK-Iraq ve nûçeya azadbûna Qadir hate ragihandin. Wezareta derve ya Nemsayê do ragihandibû ku wezîrê derve yê Iraqê Hoşyar Zîbarî jê re eşkere kiriye, ku Dr. Kemal Qadir serbest hatiye berdan. Gelwêj Seyid Qadir, xuşka Dr. Kemal, ji Malpera Amûdê re eşkere kir, ku birayê wê hîn di zindanê de ye. Li gorî wê, berî sê rojan ji aliyê PDKê soz hatiye dayin, ku ewê Dr. Kemal serbest berdin, lê ev yek pêk nehatiye. Gelwêj Seyid Qadir PDK rexne kir û got ku ew "xelkê dixapînin". Dr. Kemal Seyid di 19.12.2005ê de ji aliyê dadgeheke li Hewlêrê ve bi 30 zindan hate cezakirin. Wî di du nivîsarên xwe de rexne li serokê Kurdistana Iraqê Mesud Barzanî û binmala wî kiribû û dev avêtibû wan. http://www.amude.com


So according to Amude.com and the sister, it seems that Qadir is stil in prison, though press agencies had published the contrary. The paper accuses pro-KDP media to have state that false new. But the sister Gelawêj says he is not free.

I think that Austria has to open a representation in Hewlêr, then. :wink:
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:14 am

But Amude is KDP media I heard?

Why would AFP lie? Austria already welcomed the release.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:22 am

Amude ? I don't know. They are Western Kurds, and with their 22,22222 political parties, difficult to know who they are.

perhaps Dyaoko's right. Qadir is too fond of his cell and does not want to leave it :lol:
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:59 am

Well his sister is strange. An earlier message said that he will be freed, but it take some more days. Maybe formailities.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:10 pm

Well his sister is strange


She and her brother went out from the same mother, lol.
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