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PostAuthor: alp » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:31 pm

shii turks make up to half of iran.

a huge portion of the members of the regime (mollas, generals, bureaucrats, ..) are shii turks.

they were the makers of safevi empire and they are historic enemies of kurd nationalism.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:54 pm

alp wrote:shii turks make up to half of iran.

a huge portion of the members of the regime (mollas, generals, bureaucrats, ..) are shii turks.

they were the makers of safevi empire and they are historic enemies of kurd nationalism.



Don't be stupid... You know nothing about Iran...

30-40% of Iran is Azeri - and many of them see themselves as Iranian - and many as Turkish...

The Azeri nationalist movement and the Kurdish national movement in Iran has worked together time and again - take a look at history...

Nuff' said...
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PostAuthor: alp » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:34 pm

iranian turk site against kurd expansionism

http://kurd-yayilmasi.blogspot.com/

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PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:58 pm

alp wrote:iranian turk site against kurd expansionism

http://kurd-yayilmasi.blogspot.com/



'Yeah - Turkish agent's is a better word... :lol:
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PostAuthor: hiwa » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:48 pm

I dont participate to the forum, but yesterday your words caught my eyes, so I suggest you read this:

"The modern Kurds are the descendants of many invaders and migrants who settled the region including the aforementioned Hurrians, Guti, Lullubi, Kurti, Medes, Mards, Carduchi (Gordyene), Adiabene, Mushku, Mannai, Mitanni, Kassites, Zila, and Khaldi. In addition, the lands populated by the Kurds were also invaded by the Assyrians, Akkadians, Armenians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Arabs"

from this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds


Rumtaya wrote:
Diyarbekir: AMED


Isnt it shown sometimes is Amid in the maps? I am pretty sure this is not a original Kurdish city is it?

Shemdinli: SHEMZÎNAN


That city i dont know but it sounds like one of the iranian cities.

Yuksekova: GEWER


hahah thats nice we have an Assyrian tribe called gewernaye :wink:

Hakkari: COLEMÊRG


Never know it before thta it is called Colmerg till you told me, but we are use to say Hakkari cause that is what you can read in every map. And a important part of the new Assyrian History. :)

Arbil: HEWLÊR


The Kurds can call it so that is like a english man calling münschen Munich but still its a german city. So the same to ArbaElu its a city poppulated today in majority with kurds but not a kurdish city just like los angels is poppulated with mexicans but its not an mexican city 8)

Tünceli: DERSÎM

????
Sannandaj: SINE

????

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:03 pm

OK no need to post it three times!

For Tunceli being Dersim, everybody knows that, even turks...

Diyarbakir is indeed not originally a kurdish city, neither is Erbil

For Colemereg it appears on some maps and in english travellers diaries in the XIXth century
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PostAuthor: Piling » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:10 pm

I supress the double-double :D

Colemerg/Hakkari, no matter. Hakkari was one of the greatest tribe in the history of Kurdistan, it was not a will of turcification. As for Diyarbekir, the name of the province or the vilayet was at the end given to the city, I don't know why.
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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:39 pm

tomjez wrote:OK no need to post it three times!

For Tunceli being Dersim, everybody knows that, even turks...

Diyarbakir is indeed not originally a kurdish city, neither is Erbil

For Colemereg it appears on some maps and in english travellers diaries in the XIXth century



Put down the evidence you have for all these things... I mean; Amed...

Or should I say Amîd...

Lay it down brother...
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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:39 pm

tomjez wrote:OK no need to post it three times!

For Tunceli being Dersim, everybody knows that, even turks...

Diyarbakir is indeed not originally a kurdish city, neither is Erbil

For Colemereg it appears on some maps and in english travellers diaries in the XIXth century



Put down the evidence you have for these things... I mean; Amed...

Or should I say Amîd...

Lay it down brother...
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PostAuthor: Piling » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:49 pm

Everybody stammer in his posts to day ? :o
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:01 pm

Well first of all it was a byzantine city, then conquered by the arabs. I don't have the "evidence" here, actually I don't care too much if it is Amid or Diyarbakir, I'm not here to say it's a turkish city or whatever, I've been there I know it's kurdish :lol: Just think the name Diyarbakir is older than Amid, if you have "counter evidence" I'll be glad to believe you, no polemic here :wink:
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:29 pm

Amed was an important city of the Medes (one of the ancestros of the Kurds). It was like second capital of the Medes after Hamedan/Ecbatana.
Before Medes that place was populated by Hurrians and Mittani and other Kurdish ancestros.

Amed is 100 % Kurdish to me! :wink: It sounds even the same. Amed -> Media -> peopel of Mada/Medes
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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:15 pm

tomjez wrote:Well first of all it was a byzantine city, then conquered by the arabs. I don't have the "evidence" here, actually I don't care too much if it is Amid or Diyarbakir, I'm not here to say it's a turkish city or whatever, I've been there I know it's kurdish :lol: Just think the name Diyarbakir is older than Amid, if you have "counter evidence" I'll be glad to believe you, no polemic here :wink:


If you had spoken Kurdish - you would know that "Amed"= "A Med" - meaning; "Belonging to Med"... "A" you see is the same as "Ya" (it is a personal pro-noun - telling us who something belongs to...)

Let's take examples of "A" and "Ya" in todays Kurdish...

Whenever somebody asks you "Who does this and that belong to" in Kurdish you will reply;

"Ya ******"... Or "A ******"...

Example;

"Who's mobile telephone is this?"

Answer:
"It belongs to Tom!"

Kurdî;

"Ew telefona berîkê ya kê ye?" (*"telefona berîkê"="pocket phone")

Answer:
"A Tom e!"

Or

"Ya Tom e!"

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:46 pm

Adam and Eve spoke breton in Paradise

Indeed, after their first diner, the woman said to the man "A dam", which in breton means "I'm thirsty". The man gave water to the woman, saying "Ev", which in Breton means "Drink!"

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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:47 pm

tomjez wrote:Adam and Eve spoke breton in Paradise

Indeed, after their first diner, the woman said to the man "A dam", which in breton means "I'm thirsty". The man gave water to the woman, saying "Ev", which in Breton means "Drink!"

:wink:


Good for you... I thought you were Atheist... :roll:
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