Turkey uses chemical weapon Kurds

[dyaoko]

stop it , you are making me sick of you , stop it ,

you rely on every turkish news , but you dont belive any of the kurdish ones , even those who are confirmed by americans ?

I advise you to go to a turkish forum , there you would have more fans than here, and I dont know why you have to reply to each topic of this forum , and posting Just an anti pkk coment on every topic , even not related topics.

I dont like PKK but this act is so suspecitous to me , only a turk can do such a harm to kurds.

Turkey have done the biggest crimes against all of the Kurds of the world and there is no dobth in that , I dont allow you to defend them.

[piskrt]

Turkey have done the biggest crimes against all of the Kurds of the world and there is no dobth in that , I dont allow you to defend them.

Do not worry. Turkey can not be a match to PKK in harming ordinary kurds. Thanks to PKK, kurdish society is alienated from the soicety more than ever.

[Vladimir]

Kurds mostly forgot their identity now, speak Turkish and are assimilated a.k.a cultural genocide.

Turkey is not innocent. PKK was born because of the political atmosphere in Turkey.

Not that the PKK is a beautifull flower.

[Piling]

I think that Iraqis had made the biggest crimes against Kurds. Turks are in secund.

[piskrt]

I think that Iraqis had made the biggest crimes against Kurds. Turks are in secund.

Actually you forgot the crimes kurds committed againist each other.

[dyaoko]

Not that the PKK is a beautifull flower.

yes not a beautifull flower but the only flower .there is no other powerfull thing that ppl hope for it.

PKK was not all bad, it made great things in kurdish history, it did great things for kurdish culture, for women , for Ezedis , for unity ...
PKK was destroyed by America and Israel, it was doing well . but America and Israel captured its leader and everything messed up and now they are trying to make as much possible propagenda against them , to kill them .

yes it is not a beuatifull flower, but it is like a flower which is dying from lack of water...

[piskrt]

yes it is not a beuatifull flower, but it is like a flower which is dying from lack of water...

It is more like a cactus who shudders anyone who touches it.

[dyaoko]

I think that Iraqis had made the biggest crimes against Kurds. Turks are in secund.

no I dont think so , at least iraq , wasnt doing harm against northern - eastern kurds.... turkey have been enemy of EVERY kurd, thousands of the iranian kurds suffered because of the turkish regime ,I know many of iranian kurds victim of turkish fashist regime .

and turkey has done the biggest crimes agianst the kurds, because it also been the biggest alley of USA and Israel in the region, if there was no turkey, Iraq-Iran-Syria coudl never Kill Kurdish voice in the world, but becuase of turkey, they dont even use Kurdistan word.

and american polticians because of turkey, say Northern Iraq instead of Soutehrn Kurdistan.

I belvie turkey has been the biggest enemy of every single kurds , even in xorasan.

[Piling]

yes not a beautifull flower but the only flower

The only flower because they prevent all others flowers to grow in the same field. They don't like concurrency and if a Northern Kurd want to create a new party in Northern Kurdistan, he will be threatened, either by the PKK or by Turks. Only the Hak Par can exist today because of Barzani's support.

[Piling]

an interesting paper about the "flower of Northern-Kurdistan"

http://www.peyamner.com/article.php?id= ... ng=english

[dyaoko]

please dont use sarcasm, I didnt mean they are really flower, but my point is , shouldnt we better ciritic Turkey and shout their crime instead of talking about pkk's bad things all the time ?

if you want to talk about bad things of somebody you can always find a lot of things... let talk about negative parts of Jesus Christ and we can dedicate 300000000 pages
(no I dont mean PKK is jesus )

my point is Turkey is Evil Enough to condemn them , we must talk abou them , and report their crimes.... kurds being killed in Amed has become a normal thing and nobody even gives a shit.

[Piling]

Actually you forgot the crimes kurds committed againist each other.

Kurds are not Cambodian ppl, they don't genocide each others. In general the biggest crime is genocide, then Anfal was a real genocide.

Kurds in Amed or in other demonstrations want to be shehid and facing Turkish forces tried to die. Turks are brutes, we know. But asking such sacrifices for a leader who is cowardly afraid of his own shadow and just want to work for Turkey, I think it is waisting Kurdish lives, energy... too bad. I have pity for those who made it sincerely, and hate leader who cynically used of them.

[tomjez]

you rely on every turkish news , but you dont belive any of the kurdish ones

Chill out dude.

I work in human right defence: Every day I'm researching on crimes, rapes, slaughters, executions, village burning, enough to get depressed every evening.

When I have an information, I believe it when it is matched by other sources from different point of view. Otherwise I would believe that the Sudanese government is great, that Saddam was loved by his people, that the "Lord's Army" in Uganda are great democrats, that Democratic Republic of Congo is a democracy, and that Hutus were genocided by Tutsis in Rwanda, and not the other way around.

So basically, I put in question everything coming from PKK AND TURKISH GOVERNEMENT. This is called "NEUTRALITY". ok????? If PKK claims "100000000 persons were killed in Diyarbakir yesterday" I will wait 5 seconds before crying, and check if other medias are reporting that.

If I were to believe every info coming from America, I would believe that Gunatanamo is a holiday resort, liberation of Iraq a big success, and George bush the next Nobel Peace Prize.

If turkey used expensive chemical weapons to get rid of 8 guerillas, I will acknowledge it, but I'm waiting for more infos.

And no, I won't get on a turkish forum. The difference between talking to a PKK and talking to turks is that a PKK don't make me want to kill myself, just to laugh.

[tomjez]

onflicting numbers of casualties were reported regarding clashes between Iranian police and supporters of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), who held a series of demonstrations in the provinces of Kurdistan and West Azerbaijan last Friday in order to protest PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan's imprisonment on the anniversary of his capture seven years ago.

The governor of a Kurdish town in western Iran told the Associated Press yesterday that peace had returned to his constituency, two days after two demonstrators were killed during a demonstration marking the anniversary of the capture of Ocalan.

Alireza Radfar, governor of Maku, said police clashed on Friday with rock-throwing demonstrators who tried to storm government buildings in Bazargan and Yolaglas districts.

"Some 10 demonstrators were shot, including two who were killed," he said, noting that the demonstrators launched attacks during a gathering

Can't really see the difference with Turkey: PKK provokes police, police kill kurds. Same story. How is turkey worse?

[Rubar]

stop it , you are making me sick of you , stop it ,

you rely on every turkish news , but you dont belive any of the kurdish ones , even those who are confirmed by americans ?

I advise you to go to a turkish forum , there you would have more fans than here, and I dont know why you have to reply to each topic of this forum , and posting Just an anti pkk coment on every topic , even not related topics.

I dont like PKK but this act is so suspecitous to me , only a turk can do such a harm to kurds.

Turkey have done the biggest crimes against all of the Kurds of the world and there is no dobth in that , I dont allow you to defend them.

I do not like the PKK either. The position they are in at the moment is not only a complete sellout but also anti-Kurdish. However, with regards to the issue of Chemical weapons, I am not sure. PKK media makes up many stories. It has lost its credibility. However, on a personal note, one of my cousins who was a guerilla leader in Dersim area was killed with two of his comrades in 1998. His body was full of unusual burn marks. While I am not an expert on chemical weapons it does not need a rocket scientist to conclude that something other than bullets had left the marks.

It is rather sad that PKK has come to this point. It goes to saying if you lose your credibility, it is gone for good...

regards

Rubar