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PostAuthor: zurderer » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:57 am

so what is the aim of deep state with these diyarbakır riots?

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PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:38 pm

Ahmet Zeki knows Öcalan very well. They were students together. He described Öcalan as an eternal coward, always talking about courage and sacrifice though... Butothers' sacrifice ! :lol:

Moreover Ahmet Zeki was a Kurdish publisher in Istanbul. When it was very difficult and even dangerous to publish books in Kurdish, he did it. According to him, Kurdish struggle was a cultural one's, also.

He was a friend of Musa Anter, too.
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:24 pm

zurderer wrote:so what is the aim of deep state with these diyarbakır riots?
More nationalism, fights and no more EU. :wink:
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:35 pm

exactly :evil:
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PostAuthor: zurderer » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:41 pm

More nationalism, fights and no more EU.


So why is mhp limiting itself? They warned their supporter, to be calm.

It looks like MHP dont want nationalism and fights.(and she dont like EU)

Mhp have connection with deep state. arent you agree?


Something is wrong there, isnt it?Infact I dont see, how turkey will benefit a fight between ethnic Turks and kurds.

If It will be benefical for Turkey, Mhp(so deep state) had power to create that fight.I dont know If you are living eastern turkey or western, but people were a lot angry at here, specialy after burning thing.It iis easy for mhp to use that anger.

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:14 pm

MHP doesn't need to fuse anger.

Here just on a stupid forum they are already saying they are marching with weapons to Amed.

http://middleeastinfo.org/forum/viewtop ... 553fec4fee

These nationalistic Turks want to assimilate everyone into Turks and say "THIS IS TURKISH LAND". It's just land.. nothing more.
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PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:16 pm

tomjez wrote:Diri no offence meant :shock: I'm sorry if you found this offensing

During my first year in turkey when I discovered the kurdish issue I was always wearing some yellow green red stuff just to piss off the fascists...

And I still have in my pocket a green yellow red tepsi offered to me by a kurd in diyarbakir in 2003

So NO OFFENSE! I was more criticizing the brainless buses flamers than the colors of kurdistan...........



Okey - you are excused... :)

But don't mix our national colors with burning busses and fireworks... ;)

Yesterday - without realizing it - I was wearing a yellow T-shirt, red cardigan and I had just been shopping - so my shopping bad was green! Hahahaha! :lol:


I was walking next to my politician friend - and I told him - "If I had been seen like this in Turkey, the police would have taken me to a policestation for interrogations"! Hahahaha :lol:
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PostAuthor: zurderer » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:20 pm

I was walking next to my politician friend - and I told him - "If I had been seen like this in Turkey, the police would have taken me to a policestation for interrogations"! Hahahaha


You have realy no idea about Turkey, do you?

These nationalistic Turks want to assimilate everyone into Turks and say "THIS IS TURKISH LAND". It's just land.. nothing more.


LOL but he got good answer,

Good luck. I wonder how long it will takes before you get arrested by the Turkish police.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:22 pm

zurderer wrote:
I was walking next to my politician friend - and I told him - "If I had been seen like this in Turkey, the police would have taken me to a policestation for interrogations"! Hahahaha


You have realy no idea about Turkey, do you?



Go hang yourself...

It's people like you who live in denial who have no idea...
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:24 pm

Right Diri, the most unbelievable things happened in Turkey because of this red green yellow psychose!

Yesterday - without realizing it - I was wearing a yellow T-shirt, red cardigan and I had just been shopping - so my shopping bad was green! Hahahaha!


But sometimes Turks are right, this kind of bad taste should be harshly repressed in any civilised country.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:25 pm

lol for bad taste and kitsch gadgets, Turks and Kurds are brothers ! :lol:
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PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:58 pm

Bad taste? I always dress VERY tasteful...

Piling your comment just sounded rascist... Who said taste is something based on which nation you belong to? You Frenchies always like to think you have so damn good taste...


Fact is you were shitting under the stairs of your mansions when we were bathing in rosewater...
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:06 pm

Fact is you were shitting under the stairs of your mansions when we were bathing in rosewater...


If your ancestors were really doing that, I wonder how they manage to perpetuate the kurdish race! And it explains a lot about the non-emergence of a kurdish independant state in the middle age :)

Shitting in the stairs, yes, but conquering Europe monsieur!

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PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:08 pm

Piling your comment just sounded rascist...


Oh stop to mourn and cry about racism to each remarks, I hate professionnal victims...

You could a sample of bad taste in any gadgets sold in shops, in Turkey as in Kurdistan : false roses with false tears of dew, big heart in crystal with blood and arrows, wonderful clock with a deer on the top, romantic carry-keys, with other travelers, we made a competition to find the more "kitsch" gift to bring from Eastern...

another sample of bad taste is the ugly eagle of KRG...

And the assemblage of red/green/yellow on a flag why not, but on the same dress is a bit... yelling.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:13 pm

and your remarks about the advanced Kurds vs primitive European is funny, for during all the Middle Age, the Kurds were mocked as "rustic", "nomadic moutainers" "non civilized and non-urbans people" as Bedouins and Turks, from Arab and Persian sources...

then the brutal and primitive "Franj" were not worse than "Kurdish donkeys' thieves" as wrote of Eastern chroniclers, then wecome to the club ! :lol:
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