European Parliament condemns Ankara for probs in Kurdistan

[Vladimir]

http://www.thenewanatolian.com/tna-4301.html



The issue of Kurds was top of the agenda at the meeting held by the European Union and the Turkish Joint Parliamentary Commission in which Turkish and European deputies participated.

2-Statement by Markos Kyprianou (in English)

Markos Kyprianou said on the EU condemnation of the PKK acts of terrorism in Turkey, "The PKK is a terrorist organization. We are deeply concerned over its recent activities in Turkey. We feel with the victims of these terrorist acts. But at the same time, we deeply deplore human causalities and call on the Turkish authorities to shed light on those events through a comprehensive investigation."

Several members of the European Parliament made a call to halt Turkey’s accession talks due to the incidents in Diyarbakir.

3-Statement by Camiel Eurlings (in English)

Camiel Eurlings said, "We must invest socially and economically so that people with a family do have a prosperous future to make them satisfied they don't want violence for their children. We have to invest in more cultural freedom. If on the Turkish television, there becomes more space for Kurdish programs, or on the radio, the Roj TV in Denmark will not be that important any more... It is time for the Turkish government to try to find the adequate interlocutors in solving the Kurdish conflict."

4-Statement by Sarah Ludford (in English)

Sarah Ludford said, "The challenge and the one that Turkish authorities are failing is to separate the die-hard opponents of violence and those who want to pursue a democratic route to a political solution. One of the most hopeful things in the last few days have been the very moderate calls by people like Ahmet Turk and Osman Baydemir, the Mayor of Diyarbakir, for and end to the violence and for some political discussions. And I have to say I somewhat regret that the commission did not say anything about encouraging the Turkish government to go down this route. Not only of social and economic progress which clearly is needed, not only the recognition of linguistical and cultural rights do actually talk about having a political dialogue and a political solution in the Kurdish region in southeast Turkey."

5-Statement by Cem Ozdemir (in English)

Cem Ozdemir said that on the fact that "the Turkish system is in the way to democratization and that the PKK should do the same by departing from violence".

Source: IHA

[dyaoko]

If a French fascist defend kurds because he hate turks, you'll be happy?

I wouldnt give a shit who is defending me , and why should I give a shit ?
did Saddam Hosseyn give a shit that the bombs that he is using agaist kurds, is made by his enemies ?
do Turkey gives a shit that their historicial enemy , Iran, is arresting PKK for them and is giving them to turkey ?
do Americans give a shit that who is going to help them in iraq? (they are asking iran to help them and by their idea iran is one of the axes of evil)

If a French fascist defend kurds because he hate turks, you'll be happy?

no I wouldnt stop Fashist Frenchs if they want to defend me against Turks.
and I wouldnt start crying if they defend me against fashist turks.

and you shouldnt compare Armenians and Greeks M.Ps with Fashist Frenchs.
they (armenian) are so much softer than the Turks who you are defending , aremnians are victims of fashism, and ofcourse they have no reason to love turkey.

and this time , you CLAIM Half of them are armenian and greek , it is a turkish propagenda to convince other ppl , this statement is valuless and they are Wrong.
you are obviously are doing a great favor to turkish proapgenda on this forum.

and I dont see any Armenian and greek among those M.Ps and even if there is some, that doenst mean their words are Wrong and Fashism.

and it is you who become a pussy against kurds, when somebody says something about turkey .

[tomjez]

1) I did not say there were any armenian

2) If you don't see any Greek what can I do, I can recognize a greek name (not that hard!) when I see one, same for a german, french, spanish, italian....

3) this is not an interesting debate anyway

[Piling]

By the way, for French fascists, Kurds and Turks are in the same box : just muslim under-men...

[Tirigan]

We don’t give any shit about fascist or people who are using us for personal reasons. As long they stay out of Kurdistan form our natural resources and stop helping our enemies like Turks.
We will ask everything back what is taken from us in the future. Never forget! Also from fascist Europeans! An innocent Kurdish life is much more valuable than 1000 life’s of the European fascists. We will take Jewish example. Germans and Austrians are still paying Jews!

Now about the subject…

Well it must begin somewhere. This letter will create a domino effect. It’s just a beginning. The world must know that Turks isn’t succeeded to assimilate Kurds and that in Northern-Kurdistan still live people who call themselves Kurds, with distinguish origin (race), language, culture, everything! And we want recognition. Because we, KURDS, are human beings and it’s enough for recognizing. Every single letter helps us little by little with our struggle against the Turks. A letter from some E.P.M. from one corner, a visit of European, American etc. senator from other corner. Such little things give us strength and hope to continue our struggle.

Thank you!


BTW. Such little people like EPM ca blockade the entrance of Turks to the E.U. I hope and think Turks never can become a member of E.U. Or it’s must be done without Kurds.

[tomjez]

Such little people like EPM ca blockade the entrance of Turks to the E.U. I hope and think Turks never can become a member of E.U. Or it’s must be done without Kurds

That doesn't make any sense... a membership of the EU would be the best guarantee for Kurds!

[Piling]

In Turkey, most of Kurds wish the entrance in EU. Only Kurds out of Turkey are against that, of course, they don't live under pressure !

[Tirigan]

Kurds in Turkye, if before the moment of truth they are still part of Turkish republic, must decide their own future. Europeans must first ask Kurds from Amed and other Kurdish cities, personally, if they want to be part of EU and not only Turksss…

On the other side, Europeans not only are deciding the future of Kurds in Turkye, but also Kurds from other parts. Kurds are uniting and become one again after so many centuries and again they’re (now Europeans) trying to divide us Kurds artificially. And I’m against it. Kurdistan doesn’t lie in Europe and according me must never be part of Europe. We ain’t Europeans! We’re west-Asian people of ARYAN origin. If Turkye enter Europe, I hope without Kurdistan. Otherwise we’ll get the feeling that Europe wants to steal our parts of Kurdistan. And Kurdistan was never in European hands! Maybe some (western) parts in the ancient times of Roman-Empire...

We're 1 nation, who deserves own country!

[Piling]

Europeans must first ask Kurds from Amed and other Kurdish cities, personally, if they want to be part of EU and not only Turksss…

Kurds from Amed and other Kurdish cities want STRONGLY to be a part EU, more than Turks, precisely.

[Tirigan]

Kurds don’t want to be part of Europe. They just want to be free. Want to be liberated from the Turkssss. And uneducated Kurds think that they only can become free if Turkye join the EU…
Bull of course! They’ re many more opportunities for looking to freedom!

[dyaoko]

if you want my idea, Tirigan EU must not ask Just Northern Kurds
but all Kurds, that if they want to let the northern part of their land to be joined to EU or not .

Kurdistan is one Kurdistan , I am not a northern Kurd, but I feel that northern part of my kurdistan is mine as well .

turks have occupied northern part of my land, and they dont let me to enter that part of my homeland without Turkish Visa, they have occupied my land.

so if EU wants to enclose northern part of my occupied homeland , they must ask my permission too.

[Piling]

But the only hope you have that Northern Kurdistan becomes one day a federation or even an autonomous region like in Southern Kurdistan is it becomes a EU region.

Moreover EU could save Kurdish language in that region, because if nothing change, after 30 years there won't stay a Kurd speaking Kurdish within Turkey.

[Tirigan]

if you want my idea, Tirigan EU must not ask Just Northern Kurds
but all Kurds, that if they want to let the northern part of their land to be joined to EU or not .

Kurdistan is one Kurdistan , I am not a northern Kurd, but I feel that northern part of my kurdistan is mine as well .

turks have occupied northern part of my land, and they dont let me to enter that part of my homeland without Turkish Visa, they have occupied my land.

so if EU wants to enclose northern part of my occupied homeland , they must ask my permission too.

Exactly heval, I think same as you. Europeans must speak with us as one people and one nation and not speak with us separate. They must not separate us artificially. I get the feeling that they are afraid of unification of the Kurds. Why? We ain’t anti-Christ.

To the European nations: Don’t be afraid of our unification (fusion of Kurds).

Personally I’ve nothing against EU, but according me Kurdistan is not an European country.

It's just how I think about this case.

[Piling]

I don't think that EU cares of Kurdish unification concerning the Turkish candidacy

[heval]

But the only hope you have that Northern Kurdistan becomes one day a federation or even an autonomous region like in Southern Kurdistan is it becomes a EU region.

Moreover EU could save Kurdish language in that region, because if nothing change, after 30 years there won't stay a Kurd speaking Kurdish within Turkey.

I think the debate in this topic is going off in the wrong direction...

Kurds are hopeful that the Turkey's strive towards EU membership will bring changes to the country. Unfortunately, the changes made so far are very little.

It is not a question of whether or not the EU will make Northern Kurdistan more "free". The question is whether the Turkish Government will ever be able to achieve the necessary reform in order to be what the EU would consider a true European country. Turkey has been working towards this goal for years and they have not achieved very much to say the least.

If the EU were to accept Turkey under the current circumstances, this would not help Kurds because they would be rewarding a Turkey that hasn't truly made any positive changes or that has any prospects to. I know I may be stating the obvious here, but Turkey needs to make it's changes and make it quickly... and if they choose to never do that, we should all hope that the EU continues to reject them.