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PostAuthor: Piling » Tue May 02, 2006 11:09 am

The best way to have a free Kurdistan is a diplomatic one, and letting Shiites and Sunnis make a big mess in Arabistan. For the moment, the pôlitical line of KRG is very good and clever.
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Tue May 02, 2006 4:07 pm

tomjez wrote:
Exactly! Nobody can control the will of 40 million people! And not just some people, but 40 million KURDS!


Well it has been controled for 90 years...

90 years ago there were just about 5 million Kurds.


tomjez wrote:40 000 000 people? Great! If you want to play with numbers Turkey is 70 000 000 (OK minus the Kurds 50 000 000) and Iran about the same...

And by the way its 40 000 000 Kurds unable and unwilling to unite, fighting eachother for 1000 years, stop fantasming and have a look at real life and real history.

We don’t want destroy 50 million Turksssssssss. The Turksssssssss are the one who want to destroy 40 million people. And everything what is Kurdish. And that will never happen. We just want our ancient land back!

tomjez wrote:Biji Kurdistan anyway...

Yeah right! I knew since the beginning that you’re fake. Since you were spreading lies about Yezidi and about some of our parties…
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PostAuthor: Piling » Tue May 02, 2006 4:26 pm

To be realistic is not be against Kurds. Because this war could be very hard, I don't wish it.

Will you engage in peshmerga army if it happens ?
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Tue May 02, 2006 4:36 pm

My great, great father had 7 brothers. All his brothers were killed by Turkssssss. It’s just 1 of my great parents. I can continue for days what Turks[i]ssssssss[/s] did to us. If it will be the last battle, the battle of battles, I’ll be honoured to give my blood for my fatherland, land of my ancestors! Why? Because I know that Kurds are more people than Mongolian animals, who are not worth 1 cm. of our Kurdistan.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Tue May 02, 2006 4:44 pm

Fighting is one thing. Victory is another one. A nation of eternal shehids does not last a long time. I hope that Kurds will win by a political way this time, it will change verybody.
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Wed May 03, 2006 12:29 pm

Since you were spreading lies about Yezidi


What the Hell did I EVER say against Yezidis??? :shock:
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PostAuthor: Lovetobewithfriends » Wed May 03, 2006 1:39 pm

You all discussing well.Iran is wasting it's last chances America will crush them at first chance.So we don't have to talk about iran's offensive acts,this is not a suprise.
Yes,we are 40 millions and growing daytoday but there is a different way to choose in Turkey.It is not new building a new country in Turkey and turkishnationalists playing dirty games on Kurds anyways if we try to build a country in Turkey.It won't be suprise for Turks.They know this treat.We have to choose another way we have to have one diplomatic party,society,aid units in Turkey and try to own somethings under Kurdish origin,we can forget country ideas in Turkey and can save Southern Kurdistan and Northern Kurdistan can be a region not a political name.There is lots of chances to be strong in Turkey and race is not too important in this world.And we can still be power so Turkey can be democratic and we can be happy together.WHY:
1-We can be totaly most honest nation in the world in this way,nobody can say seperater and we will just want our rights in Turkey Republic.(of course it brings International good effect).
2-There is a turkish army which includes all types of people all types of nations in Turkey.So how we can change that?
3-Our way to being succesful will be clear.
4-We can grow our relation in our nation.We can help eachother much more.Can have money good statue so nobody will say something to us.Good Turks won't be seperated
5-Turks never can attack Southern Kurdistan.

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PostAuthor: Piling » Wed May 03, 2006 2:06 pm

Currently, 314 Turkish companies signed contracts for buiseness, building, etc in SOuthern Kurdistan, for a total value of 1 billion of $. Economically, Kurdish Region is a good opportunity for Turkey. KRG has found another way of dissuasion : money and contracts. Cleverer than shouting "Go to War !"
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Wed May 03, 2006 2:20 pm

Wrong, a shehid is worth 10104°19051°95°09 billions
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PostAuthor: Dilo » Wed May 03, 2006 2:51 pm

Piling wrote: KRG has found another way of dissuasion : money and contracts. Cleverer than shouting "Go to War !"


According to me too it could be a solution to vacuum-clean a little the kemalism in this country.

It is time that this ideology moves, this racist , ultranationalist, criminal and fossilized ideology that is not adapted any more to the current context.The world moves, the things move.

Perhaps the change will come by the economy...

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PostAuthor: Piling » Wed May 03, 2006 3:12 pm

Wrong, a shehid is worth 10104°19051°95°09 billions


Yeah but he is like a match, you can use him only one time, though an airport last a bit more :lol:
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Wed May 03, 2006 3:21 pm

by the way I dont think KRG is so smart !
they have comitted enough stupid things , and they have not done enough things for Kurdish ppl , language, cutlure , science... .
in some fields that so called terrorsits group. PKK has done much better things than them (considering the money and power that KRG could use)

let hope KRG's being silent to Turkey , to Iran's invading their land be because of their smartness... not because their cowardness or their dependency on Iran-Turkey .
let hope KRG use its "Smart Clamness" againt Kurdish ppl too , they didnt have to kill protestors in Halabcha and make them as angry to burn halabcha memorial.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Wed May 03, 2006 3:34 pm

I wonder what nice things has done the PKK... By the way, for the moment, all their representatives, like Leyla Zana, DTP President, beg a meeting to barzani and talabani.
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Wed May 03, 2006 4:17 pm

Piling wrote:I wonder what nice things has done the PKK... By the way, for the moment, all their representatives, like Leyla Zana, DTP President, beg a meeting to barzani and talabani.


who made the first Kurdish TV ?
and who has the "relatively More Indepndence News"
if you be a bit Fair , PKK have done nice things Internetional ,
they have some good Kurdish Culture Festivals
in opposite , KRG has done nothing for kurdish langauge, if you find one minster in KRG who can write his name in Latin Script without Error, I would be surprised.

I am nto supporting PKK but please be fair.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Wed May 03, 2006 4:41 pm

who made the first Kurdish TV ?


Someone who fled the PKK and had been condemned to death by Öcalan.

And concenring the action for Kurdish language, well children who were rapted by the PKK in Suleimanieh and had been bred in their schools and their guerilla forgot all their Kurdesh and spoke only Turkish when they had been released. They were supposed to make study. They learnt only their Apoist propaganda anf their families should attack their house to take their children back.

(One of them had been rapted at 8 years old. He fled at 18 and had been found in Hewlêr. He has forgottent all his past, his name, spoke only Turkish and believed that his family were dead. Fortunaltely he could find them at least. )

And concerning Öcalan's way of writing ahem I am fair : he writes as so bad in Kurdish than in Turkish. :D
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