Interesting site about Dogubeyazit :
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Author: missIndependent » Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:34 am
cool, thanx for sharing.. really interesting, sure i will take some time reading the whole lot.. i've always been interested in Noah's story. 
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Author: Diri » Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:17 am
Piling... Please use the Kurdish name... 
Beyazîd...
"Dogu" is as we know Turkish for "East"...
Beyazîd...
"Dogu" is as we know Turkish for "East"...
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Author: Piling » Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:00 pm
I have forgotten the Kurdish name in fact... and I was sure that you will correct it in fact ! 
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Author: Diri » Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:09 pm
Piling wrote:I have forgotten the Kurdish name in fact... and I was sure that you will correct it in fact !
Starting to turn psychic?
Yeah... I will correct when there is an error - as I can see it...
But it's not so different from the "other name"... Just take away the "Dogu" and you have the Kurdish name!
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Author: Vladimir » Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:18 pm
Bey is a Turkish word. Not Kurdish my friend. Isn't their an older name?:P I guess it's an Ottoman name.
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.
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Author: Vladimir » Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:53 pm
Lot of names are Arabic ain't it? Elaziz too?
Anyway, it's a beautifull site. It's made in cooperation with the city council aka DTP. I don't like that the DTP is sometimes following the PKK line, but they are doing a great job in Amed and other Kurdish cities.
If they would break their ties with the PKK, they could become much stronger and independently (or much weaker). But in a certain case they are right, the PKK is very powerfull among Kurds. Therefore if I was Kurdish, I would sadly see the PKK as a reality in Turkey.
Anyway, it's a beautifull site. It's made in cooperation with the city council aka DTP. I don't like that the DTP is sometimes following the PKK line, but they are doing a great job in Amed and other Kurdish cities.
If they would break their ties with the PKK, they could become much stronger and independently (or much weaker). But in a certain case they are right, the PKK is very powerfull among Kurds. Therefore if I was Kurdish, I would sadly see the PKK as a reality in Turkey.
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.
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Author: Piling » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:14 pm
Eleziz = al-Aziz = the Dearest a Coranic name.
Bayazid is the name of an Imam or a sufi I forgot which one.
Concerning the DTP, it is like the former HADEP : a mix of interesting and brave guys with brain-washed apoculer, the problem being that interesting and good guys are often more threatened by Turks than Apoculer, I let you guess why..
Bayazid is the name of an Imam or a sufi I forgot which one.
Concerning the DTP, it is like the former HADEP : a mix of interesting and brave guys with brain-washed apoculer, the problem being that interesting and good guys are often more threatened by Turks than Apoculer, I let you guess why..
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Author: kurdistani » Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:24 pm
It might be named afther the Ottoman Sultan that compaigned in that region of Kurdistan...
I don't know though
I don't know though
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Author: heval » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:25 am
Actually, all of you are wrong ! ! !
The original KURDISH name of Dogubeyazit, as the elders and inhabitants of the city can tell you, is actually BAVÎZÎD, which means father of the Yizîdîs! It was changed to Beyazid during the time of the Ottomans!
So use Bavîzîd, not Dogubeyazit, Beyazit or Beyazîd!
The original KURDISH name of Dogubeyazit, as the elders and inhabitants of the city can tell you, is actually BAVÎZÎD, which means father of the Yizîdîs! It was changed to Beyazid during the time of the Ottomans!
So use Bavîzîd, not Dogubeyazit, Beyazit or Beyazîd!
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Author: Piling » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:39 am
It was changed to Beyazid during the time of the Ottomans!
Some recent studies say rather that it was called Bayazid in the name of the Jalarid Sultan Ahmad's brother, a Mongol then, in the 14th/15th century.
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Author: heval » Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:02 am
Piling wrote:It was changed to Beyazid during the time of the Ottomans!
Some recent studies say rather that it was called Bayazid in the name of the Jalarid Sultan Ahmad's brother, a Mongol then, in the 14th/15th century.
Regardless of when it was changed to Beyazîd, it was originally Bavîzîd!
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Author: Piling » Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:42 am
Perhaps, I don't know. Most of cities changed their name during ages, some disappeared, some were created later... Perhaps it had had a very differetn name before Jalairid, as 'Ashib becoming 'Amadiyya, for example.
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Author: Tirigan » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:22 pm
heval wrote:Actually, all of you are wrong ! ! !
The original KURDISH name of Dogubeyazit, as the elders and inhabitants of the city can tell you, is actually BAVÎZÎD, which means father of the Yizîdîs! It was changed to Beyazid during the time of the Ottomans!
So use Bavîzîd, not Dogubeyazit, Beyazit or Beyazîd!
What do you mean with of the Yizîdîs! You mean Yezidis and who was father of Yezidis and why?
I’m PKK!
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