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PostAuthor: heval » Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:08 am

more about Kak Dîrî in Kurmancî this time...


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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:58 am

How do you think Netkurd got to know DIRI?? BY MEEEEEEEEE!!!!

http://vladimirkurdistan.blogspot.com/2 ... omote.html

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:57 am

Siamand Jaff. Kurdish painter.

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PostAuthor: Parsi » Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:52 pm

Vladimir wrote:Siamand Jaff. Kurdish painter.

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Oh wow; I love this painting.
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:01 pm

yeah it s really beautifull paiting i love it ... I also love the Def painting of siamand jaff.
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PostAuthor: serhildane » Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:40 pm

Vladimir wrote:Siamand Jaff. Kurdish painter.

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wow.. its realy kool.. its an ottoman related stuff.. mevlevis..
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PostAuthor: Parsi » Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:57 am

dogukozy wrote:
Vladimir wrote:Siamand Jaff. Kurdish painter.

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wow.. its realy kool.. its an ottoman related stuff.. mevlevis..


Yes Mevlevis or whirling Sufis are Osmon but Sufis in general were and are found all over middle east.
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PostAuthor: serhildane » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:49 am

Parsi wrote:
dogukozy wrote:
Vladimir wrote:Siamand Jaff. Kurdish painter.

http://www.siamand.com


wow.. its realy kool.. its an ottoman related stuff.. mevlevis..


Yes Mevlevis or whirling Sufis are Osmon but Sufis in general were and are found all over middle east.


:roll: sorry parsi.. but u dont know about turkish regime and its education.. :lol:

even to make the turkish people think anatolia belongs to turks for more than 1000 years, we learn "sumerians were old nomadic turkish clans who migrated to anatolia before 6000-7000 years, so we understand that we are not the raiders or invaders, ANATOLIA belongs to turks since the big bang" :lol: its ataturk's stuff.. he wanted to make his poor people be proud of their past and think like a great civilization..

"Turk! Be Proud! Work! Trust!" it's a motto of ataturk, writes every public places, and especially schools..

for fun people -Kurds, leftist, communist- joke with it :
"(Turk!)What? (Be Proud!) For What? (Work!)Unemployment??(Trust!)Whom? Regime?" :lol:

so it's normal due to my turkic educated brain.. :roll: even i used to think that im and my people are mountain turks and there is no such as kurds, kurdish till im 19 :oops: :x turkish state's propaganda machine is even harder than usa.. cia and think-tanks must take conference from turkish state about these.. :shock: :lol:
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:05 am

I think you only see these kind of suffis in Konya.
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:08 am

The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:13 am

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PostAuthor: Parsi » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:21 am

dogukozy wrote:
Parsi wrote:
dogukozy wrote:
Vladimir wrote:Siamand Jaff. Kurdish painter.

http://www.siamand.com


wow.. its realy kool.. its an ottoman related stuff.. mevlevis..


Yes Mevlevis or whirling Sufis are Osmon but Sufis in general were and are found all over middle east.


:roll: sorry parsi.. but u dont know about turkish regime and its education.. :lol:

even to make the turkish people think anatolia belongs to turks for more than 1000 years, we learn "sumerians were old nomadic turkish clans who migrated to anatolia before 6000-7000 years, so we understand that we are not the raiders or invaders, ANATOLIA belongs to turks since the big bang" :lol: its ataturk's stuff.. he wanted to make his poor people be proud of their past and think like a great civilization..

"Turk! Be Proud! Work! Trust!" it's a motto of ataturk, writes every public places, and especially schools..

for fun people -Kurds, leftist, communist- joke with it :
"(Turk!)What? (Be Proud!) For What? (Work!)Unemployment??(Trust!)Whom? Regime?" :lol:

so it's normal due to my turkic educated brain.. :roll: even i used to think that im and my people are mountain turks and there is no such as kurds, kurdish till im 19 :oops: :x turkish state's propaganda machine is even harder than usa.. cia and think-tanks must take conference from turkish state about these.. :shock: :lol:


How did they teach you about Rumi then, bira? I mean..he was one of the most famous Sufi poets - did they call him Turk? :lol:
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PostAuthor: Parsi » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:22 am

Vladimir wrote:http://niaz.dk/

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They're a little creepy, and yet mystifying at the same time...
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PostAuthor: zurderer » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:56 am

wow.. its realy kool.. its an ottoman related stuff.. mevlevis..


It is not ottoman related. Ottomans were not ruling konya at the Mevlana times.

Yes Mevlevis or whirling Sufis are Osmon but Sufis in general were and are found all over middle east.


Half true, Sufis are generaly foundl at middle asia and anatolia. Neither persia nor arabic lands. I am sure there were some sufist at there, but main bulk has no relation with persia(Iran is another issue) or arabic lands.

sorry parsi.. but u dont know about turkish regime and its education..


Realy my friend, If you dont educate yourself enough, dont accuse Turkish regime. Turkish regime dont say, Mevlana is ottoman thing or there are suffis only at anatolia. You have no idea about what are you talking.

so it's normal due to my turkic educated brain..


Problem is not your turkish educated brain, but your un-educated brain about sufist and mevlevis.

even i used to think that im and my people are mountain turks and there is no such as kurds, kurdish till im 19


Absurd, I am educated at Turkey too, and I always know, Kurds are different than Turks. It looks like you talked grey wolfs much.
How did they teach you about Rumi then, bira? I mean..he was one of the most famous Sufi poets - did they call him Turk?


They teach him as a Turkish culture, and It is absolutely true. He lived with Turks, he effected them and affected from them. His ideas are shaped at anatolia, not persia. If there were not Turks, you wont even aware of him.

When It comes to his race, It is generally unknown. Most probably persian, but not 100% true.

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PostAuthor: Parsi » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:56 pm

zurderer wrote:
wow.. its realy kool.. its an ottoman related stuff.. mevlevis..


It is not ottoman related. Ottomans were not ruling konya at the Mevlana times.

Yes Mevlevis or whirling Sufis are Osmon but Sufis in general were and are found all over middle east.


Half true, Sufis are generaly foundl at middle asia and anatolia. Neither persia nor arabic lands. I am sure there were some sufist at there, but main bulk has no relation with persia(Iran is another issue) or arabic lands.

sorry parsi.. but u dont know about turkish regime and its education..


Realy my friend, If you dont educate yourself enough, dont accuse Turkish regime. Turkish regime dont say, Mevlana is ottoman thing or there are suffis only at anatolia. You have no idea about what are you talking.

so it's normal due to my turkic educated brain..


Problem is not your turkish educated brain, but your un-educated brain about sufist and mevlevis.

even i used to think that im and my people are mountain turks and there is no such as kurds, kurdish till im 19


Absurd, I am educated at Turkey too, and I always know, Kurds are different than Turks. It looks like you talked grey wolfs much.
How did they teach you about Rumi then, bira? I mean..he was one of the most famous Sufi poets - did they call him Turk?


They teach him as a Turkish culture, and It is absolutely true. He lived with Turks, he effected them and affected from them. His ideas are shaped at anatolia, not persia. If there were not Turks, you wont even aware of him.

When It comes to his race, It is generally unknown. Most probably persian, but not 100% true.


Of course he was ethnically Persian - all his poems are in Persian! He was born in Balkh and was influenced by Attar - another famous Persian poet.

"Culturally Turk" Seeing how Anatolian culture comes mostly from other cultures - Kurd, Armenian, Greek, Persian - then yes - in that sense he was "culturally Turk" :roll:
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