What type of Kurdistan???

[kassem]

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[ZaniYar]

Abdul Karim Qassm

ok so why the insult! I didn't even know that guy

Ur the one asking for turning ur class to a strip club by asking for naked girls to be in ur class

LOL I didn't ask for that I said the only way for most europe kurds to want to attend kurdish classes is if I put a naked kurdish girl to teach it... that's all if I want naked kurdish girls for me I'll just count on my natural sex appeal thanks

Its not an insult Kassm gyan, i just wrote that for fun. Qassm is an arabic name and abdull Karim Qassm was Iraq's leadr or damn King during 50s.

In ur privious text u said ur 17 years old, so I thought why young and smart person like u ve a such name. Anyways I hope u not take it as an islut. Oh forgot I also think one of the Islam Imam was Qassm too.

Regards

[kassem]

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[Diri]

[b]KASSEM - Go to the "WHAT DOES YOUR NAME MEAN" Forum... tell us about your name! [/b]

[kassem]

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[Diri]

Hey tell us all of this and what your name is at "WHAT DOES YOUR NAME MEAN" forum... Come on... be a good sport - Nobody will know WHO you are even if you tell us your name...

Besides - I'll tips you on where to look for Kurdish names...

[Emmunah]

Thank you Zaniyar, that's very nice of you to say.

Emmunah is the name that God will call me, not the name the world will know me by, but I use it where my soul is deeply involved.

I also have writings I love, so I do know what you mean.

Sorry to everyone for getting off topic.

I think we can all agree with this...turn on the television and look at the protests in the UK...we do not want a Kurdistan like that! Freedom of speech sure does allow a lot doesn't it? All of those people screaming "Death to USA. Death to Bush. Bomb the Pentagon. Bomb the USA", and on, and on, and on...are CRAZY!!!!!!! Do you think they would get that kind of freedom in any country in the middle east? Yet, they can scream they want to kill people in the UK...and it makes me so really mad, because then all of the people think that Muslims are all like that, and every decent person who looks middle eastern is going to be hurt or not be able to get a job or a visa because of people like THEM.

Do you remember the time the Palestinians took over the Church in Bethleham? They used bible pages to wipe their butts...did the Christian world go nuts like this?

I would rather live in a city called Kurdistan, just a "city" than to live with those people screaming and burning flags.

[Diri]

I am sure we all agree on that EMMUNAH - Surely nobody will say that anti-western attitude is good... Appereantly that is what the Northern Kurds think - well off course -NOT ALL OF THEM - but mainly the PKK... they are bitter because the US isn't supporting them but is supporting the Kurds in South Kurdistan... But - hey... if the PKK wanted to they could have the support of the US... it shouldn't be that hard... simply talk more pro western ideals and less communism...

[heval]

I am sure we all agree on that EMMUNAH - Surely nobody will say that anti-western attitude is good... Appereantly that is what the Northern Kurds think - well off course -NOT ALL OF THEM - but mainly the PKK... they are bitter because the US isn't supporting them but is supporting the Kurds in South Kurdistan... But - hey... if the PKK wanted to they could have the support of the US... it shouldn't be that hard... simply talk more pro western ideals and less communism...

I don't think that the PKK is angry that US is dealing with Southern Kurdistan and not with the North. The problem with the US and the entire West is that they are supporting Turkey. This should not only upset Northern Kurds, it should upset us ALL. Currently Turkey has plans to build the Ilisu Dam, where is the west to stop it? No where, they encourage it for Turkey's economy. Turkey has burned over 6000 villages in Northern Kurdistan, where is the west to stop it? No where, instead, they continue to praise Turkey as a "democratic" state and supply it with BILLIONS of dollars worth of MILITARY AID.

The west hasn't done anything for the Northern Kurds whether or NOT they are PKK. In fact, they have only participated with Turkey in the destruction of Northern Kurdistan.

[Diri]

I don't think that the PKK is angry that US is dealing with Southern Kurdistan

First of all - I said "BITTER".... thats not the same as "ANGRY"...

and second:

problem with the US and the entire West is that they are supporting Turkey.

TO not support the PKK doesn't mean they aren't supporting the Kurds... THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!

The PKK is a "terrorist" organization (as seen by the US)... while Kurds are a people under oppression...

So what I said was that the Us isn't supporting the PKK... But there are many cases where the US is showing it's support for the Kurds... Recently Bush has been ignoring Turkeys plight for a meeting.. and only after TWO months of waiting did Bush answer that - "I am buissy at the moment"... Why? hmmm... maybe because they are working with getting Georgia into NATO - So that Turkeys role and importance will decrease... and I for one welcome this...

[Emmunah]

All I really meant was that I don't *want* to live anyplace where people want to scream DEATH to anyone..not Americans, not Turks, not Arabs, not Japanese, not Canadians, not anyone. They really mean this you know? They aren't kidding. They want to kill lots of people. I think those are the al Bakri people aren't they? They do this stuff a lot, and it is pretty embarrassing. They have the right to free speech, but they are inciting murder. I don't know...I just think some people are acting insane! I would prefer to live in a city of sane people than a large country of insane people. Maybe I'm a sanity snob!

[heval]

All I really meant was that I don't *want* to live anyplace where people want to scream DEATH to anyone..not Americans, not Turks, not Arabs, not Japanese, not Canadians, not anyone. They really mean this you know? They aren't kidding. They want to kill lots of people. I think those are the al Bakri people aren't they? They do this stuff a lot, and it is pretty embarrassing. They have the right to free speech, but they are inciting murder. I don't know...I just think some people are acting insane! I would prefer to live in a city of sane people than a large country of insane people. Maybe I'm a sanity snob!

I understand what you are saying but people experience different episodes in their life and you have to understand that. It is fine to state your opinion but telling people they are negatively influenced is not going to help you get through to them.

And about supporting Northern Kurds. I think you ignored a major part of my argument. US is NOT supporting Kurds that have nothing to do with PKK. While Turkey builds dams like Ataturk Dam and Ilisu Dam that destroy Kurdish villages and displace Kurdish villagers, and when Turkey burns villages and does not give them any governmental assistance, and the United States says NOTHING about it, they are NOT supporting Kurds.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, when the United States is supplying Turkey with BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars for military purposes - they are NOT supporting Kurds. They are actually the very cause for the Kurdish peoples' suffering!

Get my point?

[Emmunah]

Oh YEAH! I got it! I don't understand why they are doing it, and I'm trying to get them to stop supporting Turkey over the Kurds, but they haven't yet succumbed to my charms LOL! I keep writing, I keep arguing with them, and I keep trying to gather together all the support I can. I keep telling every Kurd I can that they MUST lead, take action, speak against terrorists and fundamentalism to dissassociate themselves from them, but all I can figure out is that the US wants to make Turkey as happy as possible, and make Kurds as happy as possible and I guess they want to see what the Kurds do with Southern Kurdistan. Turkey has a good lobby, and the Kurds need to join forces with other lobbies in the west in order to get a faster jump up on the Turks. It's not that I don't recognize this double standard, it's that I can only find a step-by-step approach to an optimal solution, even if it is never a perfect solution.

BTW: Heval Your English writing skills are really great. Do you teach English? You should. I could learn a lot from your grammar and writing skills.

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[Evin]

Back to the subject, there is only ONE Kurdistan.... no more division, ONE united and Greater Kurdistan