Abdulilah Firat:'Thousands of Armenians Converted to Islam'

[Vladimir]

isnt new anatolian a kurdish newspaper?

Ehh noo? How you get this idea lol.

I agree, they talk bad about iraqian kurds(who is not talking bad about iraqian kurds.), but they dont talk bad about Turkey Kurds.

Except about PKK. You are right there are lot of religious Kurds reading zaman.

If I am not wrong, AKP does get fine votes from kurdish areas too. Am I wrong or van, agrı and some kurdish cities have akp deputies.

Yes, next to DTP, AKP gets most votes.

He dont speak about his turkish identity too, why do you think he should talk about Said Nursi kurdish identity?

But I agree, he have some mild type of Turkish nationalism, but dont you think his turkish nationalism is not more than your kurdish nationalism?

He speaks about his Turkish identity a lot and his Turkish nationalism is bigger then my "Kurdish nationalism".

"The Turkish Islamist movement of Fethullah Gulen is one of the most interesting examples of liberal Islamist thinking in the Middle East. Gulen and his followers have tried to produce a religious-political movement favoring modernism, Turkish nationalism, tolerance, and democracy without sacrificing religious precepts. The structure and philosophy of this movement and its leader have been manifested in many groups and educational institutions. Part of the Turkish secularist elite views Gulen as a progressive development, though others see him as a threat in moderate garb."

The unique character of Gulen's movement lies in its attempt to revitalize traditional values as part of modernizing efforts such as the Turkish state's official modernization program. Thus far, it has had some success as it attempts to harmonize and integrate the historically diverse lands of Turkey and reconcile hundreds of years of tradition with the demands of modernity, not easy tasks. In brief, Gulen seeks to construct a Turkish-style Islam, remember the Ottoman past, Islamicize Turkish nationalism, re-create a legitimate link between the state and religion, emphasize democracy and tolerance, and encourage links with the Turkic republics.

http://www.ciaonet.org/olj/meria/meria00_arb01.html

[AlbaSaab]

isnt new anatolian a kurdish newspaper?

Ehh noo? How you get this idea lol.

I agree, they talk bad about iraqian kurds(who is not talking bad about iraqian kurds.), but they dont talk bad about Turkey Kurds.

Except about PKK. You are right there are lot of religious Kurds reading zaman.

If I am not wrong, AKP does get fine votes from kurdish areas too. Am I wrong or van, agrı and some kurdish cities have akp deputies.

Yes, next to DTP, AKP gets most votes.

He dont speak about his turkish identity too, why do you think he should talk about Said Nursi kurdish identity?

But I agree, he have some mild type of Turkish nationalism, but dont you think his turkish nationalism is not more than your kurdish nationalism?

He speaks about his Turkish identity a lot and his Turkish nationalism is bigger then my "Kurdish nationalism".

"The Turkish Islamist movement of Fethullah Gulen is one of the most interesting examples of liberal Islamist thinking in the Middle East. Gulen and his followers have tried to produce a religious-political movement favoring modernism, Turkish nationalism, tolerance, and democracy without sacrificing religious precepts. The structure and philosophy of this movement and its leader have been manifested in many groups and educational institutions. Part of the Turkish secularist elite views Gulen as a progressive development, though others see him as a threat in moderate garb."

The unique character of Gulen's movement lies in its attempt to revitalize traditional values as part of modernizing efforts such as the Turkish state's official modernization program. Thus far, it has had some success as it attempts to harmonize and integrate the historically diverse lands of Turkey and reconcile hundreds of years of tradition with the demands of modernity, not easy tasks. In brief, Gulen seeks to construct a Turkish-style Islam, remember the Ottoman past, Islamicize Turkish nationalism, re-create a legitimate link between the state and religion, emphasize democracy and tolerance, and encourage links with the Turkic republics.

http://www.ciaonet.org/olj/meria/meria00_arb01.html

Oh! It's Mr. Kurd-wannabe!

[Vladimir]

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Oh! It's Mr. Kurd-wannabe!

Ne mutlu Turk diyene.

[AlbaSaab]

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Oh! It's Mr. Kurd-wannabe!

Ne mutlu Turk diyene.

Ik dacht u Nederlands was

[AlbaSaab]

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Oh! It's Mr. Kurd-wannabe!

Ne mutlu Turk diyene.

Ik dacht u Nederlands was

Hoop het is beter dan uw Engels

[Vladimir]

If you don't have anything usefull to say, just shut up.

[Diri]

Oh! It's Mr. Kurd-wannabe!

Why do you say such a thing? Do you have an issue with him?

[AlbaSaab]

If you don't have anything usefull to say, just shut up.

Well, I guess I'd better button it then.

[AlbaSaab]

Oh! It's Mr. Kurd-wannabe!

Why do you say such a thing? Do you have an issue with him?

As a matter of fact, yes, I do have a bit of an issue with him, as he well knows!

[AlbaSaab]

If you don't have anything usefull to say, just shut up.

And while I'm shutting up, for having nothing useful to say; maybe you should take your own counsel.

[Piling]

If you have a problem with a member, you can use MP, but don't spoil a thread. Other members don't care of your personnal troubles. And here is a room vowed to "Kurdistan" only.

[zurderer]

As a matter of fact, yes, I do have a bit of an issue with him, as he well knows!

I dont know what are you talking, I dont know also who are you.(should add I dont care also.)

You cannot have personal issue with me because I never PMed, anyone.(So no personel connection with anyone.)

Ehh noo? How you get this idea lol.

Haha, I did never read that newspaper(my stupidy.) I thought It is pro-pkk because Kurds and Armenians generally use articles from that newspaper.(sterotyping? eh.)

Except about PKK. You are right there are lot of religious Kurds reading zaman.

Talking bad about PKK is a default for turkish papers.

He speaks about his Turkish identity a lot and his Turkish nationalism is bigger then my "Kurdish nationalism".

Not aware of this, I will examine this.

[Vladimir]

If you want some articles about it... just tell me. I know some Kurds also who went to Gullen schools in Kuzey Iraq.

[AlbaSaab]

If you have a problem with a member, you can use MP, but don't spoil a thread. Other members don't care of your personnal troubles. And here is a room vowed to "Kurdistan" only.

Excuse me, but we had never exchanged words before he took it upon himself to insult me. Maybe you should tell Vlad to message his insults in a pm!!!!!

[AlbaSaab]

As a matter of fact, yes, I do have a bit of an issue with him, as he well knows!

I dont know what are you talking, I dont know also who are you.(should add I dont care also.)

You cannot have personal issue with me because I never PMed, anyone.(So no personel connection with anyone.)

Ehh noo? How you get this idea lol.

Haha, I did never read that newspaper(my stupidy.) I thought It is pro-pkk because Kurds and Armenians generally use articles from that newspaper.(sterotyping? eh.)

Except about PKK. You are right there are lot of religious Kurds reading zaman.

Talking bad about PKK is a default for turkish papers.

He speaks about his Turkish identity a lot and his Turkish nationalism is bigger then my "Kurdish nationalism".

Not aware of this, I will examine this.

I dont know what are you talking, I dont know also who are you.(should add I dont care also.)

You cannot have personal issue with me because I never PMed, anyone.(So no personel connection with anyone.)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ HUH???