Sadr Followers Target Assyrian School Girls in Baghdad

[Rizgaraso]

To the poster who said Mosul is not a Kurdish city:

For your information the city of Mosul since ancient times until a few decades ago has had a strong Kurdish majority. Saddam increased the prersence of arabs though it still has a significant Kurdish poulation.

Marco Polo about one millennia ago talked about ''Mosul and Kurdistan''.
preior to Marco Polo, at the time of Arab attack to the region it was Kurds who resisted and defended the city. Arabs fought Kurds not Arabs or others. prior to Arabs the city was again under Kurdish principalities.

Please next time you want to talk about history do some research. (or dont make propaganda for Arabs or their cousins).

Here I give you some academic links:

Britannica: under entry Mosul: The population has traditionally consistedmainly of Kurds, along with a large minority of Christian Arabs, but a resettlement plan instituted by the Ba'th Party government beginning in the 1970s increased the presence of Arabs in the city.

Britannica: under entry Kurdistan: Its chief towns are Diyarbakir, Bitlis, and Van in Turkey, Mosul and Karkuk in Iraq, and Kermanshah in Iran.


Encyclopedia of Orient: under entry Kurdistan: The main cities are in Turkey; Diyarbakir, Van and Bitlis; in Iraq: Mosul, Kirkuk and Sulaymaniyah, in Iran: Bukhtaran and in Syria: Qamishli and Hassake.


Encyclopedia of orient under entry Mosul: The population of Mosul is principally Kurdish, but with a large minority of Arab-speaking Christian Assyrians, and a smaller minority of Turkomans.

And thousand others...

Thank you.

[Diri]

"bi adab" and "bi tarbiyat" are not swears lol! They mean "rude" or "un-mannered."

Tell me, King Diyako, what have you accomplished in your life that is soooo great? Diri makes beautiful Kurdish clothing for women and women respect him for it because he is continuing the Kurdish tradition and culture. What have you done for your people that makes you so much better?

Yes, you are right, Parsi - Bê edeb and bê terbiyet both mean, Un-mannered/rude/impolite etc...

@King Diyako - one thing is what you speak, another is the higher form of Kurdish, which is used strictly on an academic level...

In everyday speech, Kurds say "Bê terbiyet" and "Bê edeb"...

And they are not "swears", like Parsi pointed out...

King Diyako, your English is realy poor, but nobody insulted you because of it...

[Diri]

To the poster who said Mosul is not a Kurdish city:

For your information the city of Mosul since ancient times until a few decades ago has had a strong Kurdish majority. Saddam increased the prersence of arabs though it still has a significant Kurdish poulation.

Marco Polo about one millennia ago talked about ''Mosul and Kurdistan''.
preior to Marco Polo, at the time of Arab attack to the region it was Kurds who resisted and defended the city. Arabs fought Kurds not Arabs or others. prior to Arabs the city was again under Kurdish principalities.

Please next time you want to talk about history do some research. (or dont make propaganda for Arabs or their cousins).

Here I give you some academic links:

Britannica: under entry Mosul: The population has traditionally consistedmainly of Kurds, along with a large minority of Christian Arabs, but a resettlement plan instituted by the Ba'th Party government beginning in the 1970s increased the presence of Arabs in the city.

Britannica: under entry Kurdistan: Its chief towns are Diyarbakir, Bitlis, and Van in Turkey, Mosul and Karkuk in Iraq, and Kermanshah in Iran.


Encyclopedia of Orient: under entry Kurdistan: The main cities are in Turkey; Diyarbakir, Van and Bitlis; in Iraq: Mosul, Kirkuk and Sulaymaniyah, in Iran: Bukhtaran and in Syria: Qamishli and Hassake.


Encyclopedia of orient under entry Mosul: The population of Mosul is principally Kurdish, but with a large minority of Arab-speaking Christian Assyrians, and a smaller minority of Turkomans.

And thousand others...

Thank you.

Silaw Rizgaraso...

Bi xêr hatî bo Roj Bash Kurdistan...

Thank you - I am well aware of the Britanica and Encyclopedia of Orient quotes... I have seen them many times before...

Indeed the arabization of Southern Kurdistan, must be reversed...

Eastern Mosul, does have a clear cut Kurdish majority...

Good luck incorporating it into Kurdistan Regional Government's sphere...

[King Diyako]

@Diri

@King Diyako - one thing is what you speak, another is the higher form of Kurdish, which is used strictly on an academic level...

In everyday speech, Kurds say "Bê terbiyet" and "Bê edeb"...

And they are not "swears", like Parsi pointed out...

King Diyako, your English is realy poor, but nobody insulted you because of it...

Dude you unbelievable!! Been swearing at me with Arabic word and called academic level. Hhhhh lougable!!! .I guess the academic level you talking about is one which you doing eha --ahooo with girls in school!!! You can’t even speak Kurdish!! The two words “ edeb and terbiyet” are not Kurdish. It has been adopted from your Arabs. I never seen in northern Kurdistan such word has been used often , however I am not saying never been used, that fact they not Kurdish, so go learn Kurdish .

Actually as I said before you should be doing those girls staff, playing seek and hide , going shopping staff, don’t confuse with mapping Kurdistan and selling off... you NOT in such position to make such thing..

My English poor,,,let see, I am not like you spent all day checking dictionaries and formatting sentences,, I write with closing eyes..so tell me can you??

You don’t know anything about Kurdistan, go read about Kurdistan history before selling Mosel to Arabs..

[Diri]

@Diri

@King Diyako - one thing is what you speak, another is the higher form of Kurdish, which is used strictly on an academic level...

In everyday speech, Kurds say "Bê terbiyet" and "Bê edeb"...

And they are not "swears", like Parsi pointed out...

King Diyako, your English is realy poor, but nobody insulted you because of it...

Dude you unbelievable!! Been swearing at me with Arabic word and called academic level. Hhhhh lougable!!! .I guess the academic level you talking about is one which you doing eha --ahooo with girls in school!!! You can’t even speak Kurdish!! The two words “ edeb and terbiyet” are not Kurdish. It has been adopted from your Arabs. I never seen in northern Kurdistan such word has been used often , however I am not saying never been used, that fact they not Kurdish, so go learn Kurdish .

Actually as I said before you should be doing those girls staff, playing seek and hide , going shopping staff, don’t confuse with mapping Kurdistan and selling off... you NOT in such position to make such thing..

My English poor,,,let see, I am not like you spent all day checking dictionaries and formatting sentences,, I write with closing eyes..so tell me can you??

You don’t know anything about Kurdistan, go read about Kurdistan history before selling Mosel to Arabs..

King Diyako - your English is so poor, that you didn't understand what I said...

Let me explain what I said to you:

@King Diyako - one thing is what you speak, another is the higher form of Kurdish, which is used strictly on an academic level...

In everyday speech, Kurds say "Bê terbiyet" and "Bê edeb"...

And they are not "swears", like Parsi pointed out...

King Diyako, your English is realy poor, but nobody insulted you because of it...

"@King Diyako - one thing is what you speak, another is the higher form of Kurdish, which is used strictly on an academic level... "

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We must not confuse daily speech with academic speech. In Kurdish daily speech, Kurds use those two words. And in Bakûr Kurds even say: Terbiyetsiz, in Turkish instead of Kurdish...

You said:

"Been swearing at me with Arabic word and called academic level."

- You misunderstood me... I didn't say it is academic speech - in fact I said the opposite: it is daily speech among Kurds... Bê terbiyet is used by Kurmancî speakers all over Kurdistan - and Bê edeb is more a Rojhelatî thing...

King Diyako, I am engaged... I don't fool around with people... And even if I did, that would be none of your buisness...

I serve my nation and Kurdistan through my fashion and creativity... What do you do?

Here is the latest article about me... If I am not mistaking, you do read Turkish, don't you?

Keremke:

http://www.yeniozgurpolitika.com/?bolum=haber&hid=10894

[King Diyako]

@diri

One things amaze me actually, , Yeni ozgur politika publish your girls staff, while you totally committed to be anti kurds and anti PKK. So I guess you should learn something, that kurds respect anyone who achieves something…..

The other things, what you do is make me laugh….you like yourself, to be seen..is something obvious

It Is nothing heroic or proud dude…it is to sissy….
So..if Designing your cloths, is something.. Designing Kurdistan boundary is something else , it is drawn by blood, not by your fashion pen…..Don’t mix up…

What I done for Kurdistan????

I am not in position, neither my country to put my record out..there is millions our men and women from mountain to political, struggling in all part our society, they do their work and their duty with blood, every single day, every single hours with its minutes and seconds.. Those heroes never ever even been noted..so I am not in such position to say what I done…I even dare myself to say that I have been humble servant!! I can’t!!I am nothing..As you should be.

[Diri]

@diri

One things amaze me actually, , Yeni ozgur politika publish your girls staff, while you totally committed to be anti kurds and anti PKK. So I guess you should learn something, that kurds respect anyone who achieves something…..

The other things, what you do is make me laugh….you like yourself, to be seen..is something obvious

It Is nothing heroic or proud dude…it is to sissy….
So..if Designing your cloths, is something.. Designing Kurdistan boundary is something else , it is drawn by blood, not by your fashion pen…..Don’t mix up…

What I done for Kurdistan????

I am not in position, neither my country to put my record out..there is millions our men and women from mountain to political, struggling in all part our society, they do their work and their duty with blood, every single day, every single hours with its minutes and seconds.. Those heroes never ever even been noted..so I am not in such position to say what I done…I even dare myself to say that I have been humble servant!! I can’t!!I am nothing..As you should be.

You are judging me - and you don't even know me...

Is this how you talk to Kurds you meet? Well it's realy not a good way to start relations with people...

It's not "girls stuff" first of all - I design clothes for both men and women...

Secondly, I am not anti-PKK... If I am "anti-PKK" just because I critisize the PKK, then you should call me "anti-KDP" and "anti-PUK" too - because I critisize every political party...

Having said that, I think you are a FOOL to call a KURD "anti-Kurd"...

I lost the little respect I had for you after you said that...

From now on, you should watch your mouth, because I won't take your crap anymore...

You can't accuse Kurds of being "anti-Kurd"... That's VERY offensive... I would die for my nation and homeland, if it would serve a purpose...

But as things are now, I am of better service to Kurdistan through my promotion of Kurdish fashion and Kurdish culture...

[King Diyako]

@diri

[Edit: Bad language removed]

As I said What you do or have done, wouldn’t border anyone.it.is your own fantasy..Enjoy it..Post some girls here we may enjoy too…
What my logical arguments is that you cannot mix your so called fashion design with playing Kurdistan map..Your blue map in heart Kurdistan it is extremely offensive to 50 million Kurds..you have should contact Kurdish in that area before making such drawing, those Kurds in that corner of Kurdistan every single day get headchoped or boombed,, kidnapped, for that piece of land..you think is just like that you sit-down in Norway enjoy your girls and going to sell off blood land, this is insult to entire Kurdish nation…if you like Kurdistan and ready die for Kurdistan,it is simple get rid of those blue map on your signature and stop selling off Kurdistan land., until you haven’t done that you will be remained of anti kurd..So is very simple logic..This is about our nation and Kurdistan..nothing for sell not now not ever!!

[Diri]

Are you sure you aren't "Womanizer"...

[King Diyako]

that all you can do I guess editing banning when losing battle...that is whta losers do...

Who i am or who i will be is not your business, ,because simply i haven’t use F* words here so. now you calling me womanzier..well everyone likes womens..but why i have to choose such nick...while my proud as median. you as admin you should ask yourself..swearing peoples then..maping thire country to someone else is my duty to argue...

look i know what you and your boss doing, you lefting out kurds, deleting them banning them..if you are Kurds..it is very important to let them say their opinions. you respect or disrespect me is not important to me at all..my view is view of a lot of Kurds..not liking them is simply not agree what kurds believing or thinking...i am not here to take personal anyone one neither i know anyone nor i care about anyone..My reason been in forum is my view which reflect about Kurdistan,it is my country, is my duty to respond to any nonsense’s. we do in all forums including Turkish ,Americans etc....

[Diri]

that all you can do I guess editing banning when losing battle...that is whta losers do...

Who i am or who i will be is not your business, ,because simply i haven’t use F* words here so. now you calling me womanzier..well everyone likes womens..but why i have to choose such nick...while my proud as median. you as admin you should ask yourself..swearing peoples then..maping thire country to someone else is my duty to argue...

look i know what you and your boss doing, you lefting out kurds, deleting them banning them..if you are Kurds..it is very important to let them say their opinions. you respect or disrespect me is not important to me at all..my view is view of a lot of Kurds..not liking them is simply not agree what kurds believing or thinking...i am not here to take personal anyone one neither i know anyone nor i care about anyone..My reason been in forum is my view which reflect about Kurdistan,it is my country, is my duty to respond to any nonsense’s. we do in all forums including Turkish ,Americans etc....

You are not making much sense...


Look, you say you don't take things personally and you don't wanna be personal - yet you are accusing me of fooling around with girls - and you are attacking me, saying I am not a Kurd...

That is VERY personal...

I on the other side, have a strictly respectful attitude toward anybody who deserves it - YOU are proving that it's no use talking to you... Because you turn everything into a dick-measuring competition... For me - it doesn't matter if you are PKK or KDP, Atheist or Islamist - for me, what is important is: you are Kurd and we are both from Kurdistan...

You accuse me of being anti-PKK and say: lucky you that the PKK is so nice that even if you are anti-PKK they interview you and show you sympathy/help you out... But the truth is: if I had been anti-PKK I wouldn't have done that interview at all...

You think you are better than others? What makes you think that your way of being "Kurdish" is more right than another persons way of being Kurdish?

Are you aware that there are thousands of different types of categories for any nationality? Including Kurds...

You can't accuse somebody of not being Kurdish, just because they disagree with you...

And last, but not least, just to make this clear: "Womanizer" was a former member of this forum - he acted VERY childish, insulted people and was disrespectful towards others based on religion ---- so he was banned...

When I asked "Are you sure you aren't 'Womanizer'" - it was meant as a joke...

1) I did not swear at you. Then you don't know what Bê terbiyet and Bê edeb mean...
2) Bad language will be edited when we find it as such...
3) Everybody is welcome to this forum, as long as they respect other users etc. -

[King Diyako]

@diri


Look dude, you still don’t get the point,
the map you have drawn is not personal to me, it is personal to entire nation it is crime, you haven’t been there you don’t know what is going on< every inch Kurdistan must be preserved and decision in this region only made by blood and force no matter who much Kurds kinds or nice,, anyway is long story... you know Arab and Turks mentality.. how ethnic cleaning against Kurds works..


now in that place couple thousands ethnic Christian living is not means we going to sell off our nation and let to them build in ourland where Kurds are majorityand hass been living there for over 1000 years (in 80% of this blue map Kurds are majority), let not forget in southern Kurdistan ,Turkmen is second largest nation after Kurds, wether they come 100 years ago or 500 years ago they been living there and they have right..Again this people well speared..in their fascism maps cover whole southern Kurdistan only they lleft sulemaniya and duhok for kurds..cant you see this...this kind map are dangerous..do not do this. Kurd and Kurdistan interest always come first..one of the most scarified and suffered nation in earths are kurds...if there is people and population of any ethnic, Kurds always respectful of their choice..it is well been mentioned in southern constitution..we do not deny any nation, we know the pain..But things need be realistic and out imaginary filed.....
Again I found u very arrogant, and childish... I explain to you in very beginning in different posts.. in very respectful manners with please and baggers word”...it seem you have mental problem,,, you attaching me with word” you not matching me” this kind attitude is offcourse girls staff..Offcourse is childish and stupid...this kind ignorance are harmful to Kurdish cause....my attacking to you is..Very legitimate one..Even i done such thing playing with Kurdistan map, every single Kurdish have right to question me..This is crime, It is genocide...every achievement regardless of any part Kurdistan is been with blood nothing been so easy..Millions of millions Kurds has been vanished..Dont propaganda for those who sucking Kurdish blood, those who want build imaginary empire in our head....stop this nonsense...

[cazyun]

i agree wit king diyako the assyrians think they can buy their land with money but in the end it can be dangerous if s-kurdistan dont open their eyes..assyrians has al right like other minorities to establish their own cultur and language center but to say citiies and lands belongs to them is walking over the line...the assyrians home place is todays areas bagdad and ninevah provinses

[Diri]

King Diyako - you are not being respectful at ALL...

If you had some respect, you would say: Okey, I don't agree with you, but you are free to have your oppinion...

THAT is called respect... But here you are thinking you are better than me, attacking me as a person, rather than critisizing my arguments with constructive critic...



And no, 80% of the blue is not Kurdish majority... You should have a look at a map...



For larger version:

http://www.navend.de/images/kurdistan-map-large.jpg

Notice how Mosul is not made a part of Kurdistan... And that map seems like it was made by some "important people" or something - because it's too proffessional to be an amateurs work...