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From now on US troops will arrest PKK members!

PostAuthor: ZaniYar » Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:10 am

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According to Peyamner " After Ibrahim Jafferi's visit to Turkey, Turkish goverment disclosed that they have given a list of 150 PKK members to be arrested by Iraqi and US troops".

Also according to CNN TURK TV, that list have given to all US troops all around Iraq and they have asked them whereever they see those names in the list, arrest them immediately". Moreover, the same source revealed that Osman Ojalan is on the top of the list to be arrested including Murad Qara yallan, Ali Haydar Qytan and Jamil Bayak..ect. Also Turkey have given enough information to US troops and Iraqi givernment where about those PKK members live. [/url]

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:26 am

Already posted it on KBU news :lol: and forum.
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: ZaniYar » Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:34 am

Vladimir wrote:Already posted it on KBU news :lol: and forum.



Well done Vladimir.

After I translated that from Peyamner then I saw the same report in Kurdish media as well.


New York (KurdishMedia.com) 6 June 2005: In Ankara, Turkey, for his first visit abroad since being sworn in as Iraqi Prime Minister, Dr. Ibrahim al-Jafari was given a "red list" of 150 leading Kurdish dissidents who the Turkish regime believes are residing in Iraq and South Kurdistan.

The list included top members of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and the Kurdistan Patriotic Democrat Party (PWD), a group of former PKK activists who broke away from the PKK approximately a year ago.
Among the PKK members on this list were Cemil Bayik, Murat Karayilan, Ali Haydar Kaytan, Isa Altinsoy, and Mustafa Kargu.

Those from the PWD included Osman Ocalan, Faysal Dunlayici (Kani Yilmaz), Nizamettin Tas, and Hidir Yalcin.

The Turkish government has consistently demanded that the US military forces in Iraq take action against the PKK activists based in Iraq and South Kurdistan, and is now making the same demand of the newly-elected Iraqi government.

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PostAuthor: kassem » Sat Jun 11, 2005 9:13 am

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PostAuthor: pepula » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:43 pm

that's so stupid. i mean they aint terrorists. i never liked the americans anyway

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:47 pm

Don't worry - it is only politics - USA isn't gonna do anything to prevent the PKK in it's "terrorism" towards Iran and Syria - In fact USA is using them to make a national uprising in the Kurdish areas so that the US can legetimatly rage war against these two states... They will indeed succeed.. Inshallah!
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:24 am

terrble sadnesss.....fuck USA
KBU was updated
http://www.kurdistanblog.blogspot.com/index.html
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:37 am

Read this... And STOP BITCHING! ;)

Ghosts of the past

By: Evren Deger
The New Anatolian (Turkish)

June 8, 2006

• Will the PKK become a tool of the US?

• Will the US use the PKK to create unrest in Syria and Iran before possible attacks against these two countries?

The year is 1990. Saddam Hussein's forces invaded Kuwait on Aug. 2. In the aftermath, the international community took action.

Sanctions determined within the framework of the resolutions of the United Nations were implemented. First came economic sanctions and then… the first Gulf War.

But this was only the visible side of what has happened. Shortly after the invasion of Kuwait, a U.S. Army elite unit known as the Green Berets were deployed in northern Iraq. This unit, which was operational from Incirlik Airbase located in Turkey, served on different missions in northern Iraq. The Kurdish population of the region received theoretical and military training.

The final goal was unrest within the country in the aftermath of the war.

The first Gulf War began on Jan. 16, 1991, and lasted approximately two months. In the aftermath of the bombings that were watched by the whole world live on TV, Iraq took a step back and the war halted.

It didn't end, but halted...

Suddenly, Kurds trained by the Green Berets created tension in northern Iraq and in the aftermath, masses of people dramatically fled to the Turkish border. Thousands of Kurds migrated to Turkey.

And, the U.S. was in charge. Tent cities were formed, security maintained for the Kurds. As a result, a no-fly zone to the north of the 36th parallel was declared, and the Kurds returned home.

The year is 2005. Almost two years have passed since the toppling of the Saddam regime. Turkey has been involved in a series of efforts to end the presence of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), especially in northern Iraq, before and after the war. It received a series of pledges as a result of its every effort. But these pledges were never fulfilled.

On Monday Deputy Chief of General Staff Gen. Ilker Basbug, who is visiting the United States, listed Turkey's demands:

"Time is up. We've been waiting patiently for more than two years. People on the street are waiting for the U.S. to take action. It's hard to tell the people to be patient for another two years."

Turkey is running out of patience. But this is only the tip of the iceberg. The U.S. is on good terms with the PKK in northern Iraq. They held meetings, but nothing concrete has emerged.

Moreover, two parties have links with the PKK, Syria and Iran. The two countries that the U.S. stipulated as targets after the Iraq operation.

Sudden clashes started to occur in both countries.

News reports reveal the beginning of a new era:

- Syrian police and nationalist Arabs in southwestern Kurdistan attacked houses and workplaces belonging to Kurds. Four died, and dozens of Kurds, 30 of them women, were wounded. According to local sources, hundreds of people were taken into custody and the majority of them were tortured.

- Iran reportedly launched an operation against the Kandil Mountains area and city of Piransehir near the Iraqi border. They bombed the PKK camps located in the mountains and arrested a number of people on charges of providing aid and shelter to the organization.

The U.S. seems to have found its new tool in the new order that it will establish in the Middle East. During this process, the PKK will be the tool used to create unrest in Iran and Syria.

This is not a prediction, it is intelligence.
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:52 am

This is not a prediction, it is intelligence.


i had read that article it was published in a turkish news .
turks used to make such stroies to make iran scary...so iran help them to kill pkk....acording to peymaner iran attacked to pkk in qandil last weeek.

i must say

"This is not intelligence .this is stupid Turkish propagenda "
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PostAuthor: cheryl » Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:54 am

<<After Ibrahim Jafferi's visit to Turkey, Turkish goverment disclosed that they have given a list of 150 PKK members to be arrested by Iraqi and US troops>>

The list is given to Ibrahim Ja'afari, head of the Iraqi government. Iraqi and US troops will have to be given the order, by Ja'afari, to go after the gerîlas.

How many US troops did I see near the Kurdish border with Turkey? None. How many "Iraqi" troops are in Kurdistan? None.

In addition, there is this nugget from the Turkish press:

Turkey Is Not The Strategic Partner Of The United States

June 12, 2005

From: NTV television, in Turkish

Commenting on Prime Minister Erdogan's visit to the United States, [opposition] CHP [People's Republican Party] deputy leader Onur Oymen has said: Turkey is not the strategic partner of the United States.

In a statement Oymen argued that Turkey gained nothing from the prime minister's visit to the United States. Turkey expects the elimination of the PKK [Kurdistan Workers' Party] from northern Iraq, Oymen said, but there are no signs that the United States would take specific action regarding this issue.

Oymen also said that Turkey was not able to convey its message fully in connection with Syria.

Stressing that Turkey is not the United States' strategic partner, the CHP [deputy] leader stated that Britain, Israel and to a certain extent, Canada, were the United States' strategic partners. He added: Other than those countries, no other country in the world is the strategic partner of the United States. If you are strategic partners, you do not impose an arms embargo on each other. If you are strategic partners, you do not place sacks on the heads of your partner's soldiers. If you are strategic partners, then you support each other regarding national causes such as fighting terrorism or Cyprus.

http://home.cogeco.ca/~kobserver/12-6-0 ... ner-us.htm

Notice the last line, which says, "If you are strategic partners, then you support each other regarding national causes such as fighting terrorism or Cyprus."

For Turkey, there is only one kind of "terrorism." It seems they are not getting the support they want from the US regarding this "terrorism." I don't think they're going to get it from the US any time soon and I certainly do not believe the US is going to send troops into the mountains, on foot, in terrain they do not know, just to get a few "terrorists" for a country (Turkey) that holds the most responsibility for the growth of terrorism in Arab Iraq by their refusal to allow the deployment of the 4th Infantry Division in March, 2003.

I have the feeling that if Ja'afari promised those gerîlas to Turkey, he will have to go arrest them himself.

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PostAuthor: pesh17 » Sun Jun 12, 2005 4:55 am

Guys, Guys. America is still pissed off at Turkey for not letting in their troops, and now that they are warming up to Syria and Iran. America is only making them pay right now for what they did and are doing. It's just politics. I doubt they'll go after pkk in the near future, and if they do, it is just another head ache for them. Turkey couldnt wipe them out after 15 and with apo in jail. I doubt America will make the stupid mistake of engaging in war with them. They simply just cant afford it right now, militarily or politically.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:52 am

I bet you America can't do shit... Kurdistan has a Parliament - remember???

Adn according to the TAL Any foreign military force must recieve the consent of the Parliament to be able to enter the Kurdistan Region of Iraq... Even Turkey and Iraq must ask for permission...
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:10 am

Even Turkey and Iraq must ask for permission


hah ? who says turkey need persmission ? Turkey is the Dear Gay Friend of the Bush ... Bush gives them whatever they want...

and you expect Turks say "excuse me mr kurd can I attack to you ?"
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:26 am

Nope - but as soon as Barzanî is elected he will stand in their way and tell them to go fuck themselves in a very political way :P
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:09 pm

Diri I am pretty sure your familly is a Barazani Fan, I am sick of this.
ppl in kurdistan vote for partys based on their being relatvie to the head of party , please stop doing propagenda for barzani..he has enough Blacks in his history ...

as rebwar said , you must hate both talebani and barazni or like both of them
not like one of them and dsilke the otehr.
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