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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:13 pm

@emanuel

thank you, interesant, do all leki and kelhur speakers say to snow "wefr or "ver"?

@diri

thank you too.

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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:56 am

hallooo, can you answere it? do ALL kelhuri und leki speakers use the v/w herefore?

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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: Jaff Sassani » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:01 pm

Kurdish language and the SKDC of Jaff people opinions

The Kurdish languages are very rich language. We have three four names for each subject. Any Idea for the standard of Kurdish language using Latin Alphabets are welcomed by our group.

We believe all Kurdish dialect should stay as it is. What we need now and in future is the standard of Kurdish language. The Kurdistan region of Iraq and its leadership especially the Arab nations agent and trader Mr. Talabani is an obstacle on the road of the standard Kurdish language.

Mr. Talabani since he meet the President of Egypt Jamal Abdul Nassar, he become an agent and trader of our nations. First he used his bankrupt idea that Kurd never want to have country because we don’t have the border on the water port while at that time Afghanistan did not have such border and it was an independent country. Second he is claming that we have to use the Arabic Alphabet because of Iraq constitutions that he helped Saddam Hussein to write it. Ask Iraqi Government to disclose his letter to Saddam Hussein in 1968-1970. The trader advise to Saddam Hussein in those letters will show the Kurdish people what he was saying.

Talabani advised Saddam Hussein how to keep the Arab nation strong to fight the Jewish people. The information he provided Saddam Hussein about General Mustafa Barzani the Kurdish leader and what he was saying. The trader advised Saddam Hussein that Mr. Barzani are an agent of Israel and the west, fight him to the end. Saddam Hussein fought our people to the end, he killed over one million of us that is why Talabani want to safe them, and they know his secret.

The Kurdish people should wake up, don’t follow the trader like him. We always have sorry end because some one sold us in the free market!!!!

Look at our history, you don’t need to believe politician, believe in yourselves. Read every good proposal and if you care about our people, write good word.

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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: Ashuri » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:03 pm

Diri wrote:I disagree with Armenian, Arabic, Turkmen or Assyrian being made official languages in any "regions" of Kurdistan.


Well thats not up to you is it, its up to the people who live there and vote in the polls. :)

And as for Assyria, sure I'd be happy for Kurdish to be one of the official languages.

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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: lak-kurd » Fri May 14, 2010 4:44 pm

Johny Bravo wrote:@emanuel

thank you, interesant, do all leki and kelhur speakers say to snow "wefr or "ver"?

@diri

thank you too.



in Leki we say ver

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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: lak-kurd » Fri May 14, 2010 4:53 pm

Johny Bravo wrote:A question, are this words in LEKI right?:

English: Hungry, Rain, Wind, Spring, Leave, Lamb, Wolf, Say, Remembrance, Voice, verb-stem for "see" in prense
Leki: Wersî, Waran, Wa, Wehar, Welng, Werek, Werg, Watin, Wîr, Hena, dwî

what is in kelhuri AND leki this other words:

kidyney (kurmanci: gurchik), change (kurmanji: guhartin), flower (kurmanci: gul), snow (kurmanji: berf), widow (kurmanji: bî, jinêbî), heart (kurmanji: dil), lie (kurmanji: derew), laugh (kurmanji: kenîn), sleep (kurmanji: xew), ram (kurmanji: beran), bride (kurmanji: bûk), summer (kurmanji: havîn), buy (kurmanji: kirîn), fox (kurmanjî: rovi), blue (kurmanjî: shîn), gras (kurmanji: giya), to itch (kurmanji: Xurandın), font (kurmanji: kanî), pig (kurmanji: beraz), run (kurmanji: bezin), choose (kurmanji: hilbijartin), people (kurmanji: gel), as (kurmanji: wek), yesterday (kurmanji: duh), salt (kurmanji: xwey), son (kurmanji: kur), inside (kurmanji: nav), evening (kurmanji: evar), black (kurmanji: resh), village (kurmanji: gund),

THANK YOU!

EDIT:
do say all kelhuri speakers to hunger: birsî? or is there also "wersî" in kelhuri?


kidyney (Leki: gudala), change (kurmanji: avaz, in old language is somthing intresting...if you see a genie (leki: Meloikat, Jen) and feel bad people sa that "Jen guaronia" means Jen's have made him to change),
flower (leki: gul), snow (leki: var), widow (kurmanji: biva...it's persian but I don't know about our original language), heart (lek: del), lie (leki: doru),
laugh (kurmanji: khanin), sleep (kurmanji: khaw), ram (leki: berin), bride (leki: bowii), summer (leki: tawson), buy (leki: kherin), fox (Leki: rowa), blue (leki: kaw),
gras (leki: giya), to itch (leki: Xuranen), font (leki: kani), pig (leki: veraz), run (leki: ramin, dowin), choose (leki: entekhab),
people (leki: xalgh. khak, mardem), as (kei: joor), yesterday (leki: dona), salt (leki: xwa), son (leki: kur), inside (leki: nom),
evening (leki: iwara), black (leki: si), village (leki: abadi),

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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: Emanoelkurdistani » Fri May 14, 2010 5:18 pm

lak-kurd wrote:
kidyney (Leki: gudala), change (kurmanji: avaz, in old language is somthing intresting...if you see a genie (leki: Meloikat, Jen) and feel bad people sa that "Jen guaronia" means Jen's have made him to change),
flower (leki: gul), snow (leki: var), widow (kurmanji: biva...it's persian but I don't know about our original language), heart (lek: del), lie (leki: doru),
laugh (kurmanji: khanin), sleep (kurmanji: khaw), ram (leki: berin), bride (leki: bowii), summer (leki: tawson), buy (leki: kherin), fox (Leki: rowa), blue (leki: kaw),
gras (leki: giya), to itch (leki: Xuranen), font (leki: kani), pig (leki: veraz), run (leki: ramin, dowin), choose (leki: entekhab),
people (leki: xalgh. khak, mardem), as (kei: joor), yesterday (leki: dona), salt (leki: xwa), son (leki: kur), inside (leki: nom),
evening (leki: iwara), black (leki: si), village (leki: abadi),


Thanks. let me help you with correct spellings:

kidney : gurdale ------- change : gweranin

flower : gul ---------- snow : ver

bíve : widow ----------- heart : dil

lie : doru ------------- laugh : xenín

sleep : xew ------------ ram : berín

bride : bowí ------------ summer : tawson

buy : xirín ----------- fox : rowe

blue : kew ----------- grass : gíya

itch : xuranin ---------- font : kení

pig : viraz ----------- run : remín / dowín

choose : éntékhab --------- people : xelq / merdim

as : jur ----------- yesterday : done

salt : xwa ------------- son : kur

inside : nom ------------ evening : íware

black : sí --------------- abadí



By the way I think original Lekí words for "ram" is "wiren" (ورهَ ن) and "choose" is "wijhardin" (وژاردن).
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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: Emanoelkurdistani » Fri May 14, 2010 5:23 pm

May I know your region brother: Eleshter, Nurabad, Hersín? To have an impression of your regional dialect :)
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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: lak-kurd » Fri May 14, 2010 5:34 pm

Emanoelkurdistani wrote:May I know your region brother: Eleshter, Nurabad, Hersín? To have an impression of your regional dialect :)

Dude, my parents are from Nurabad but I born and raised in koohdasht(Koiasht)

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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: Emanoelkurdistani » Fri May 14, 2010 6:12 pm

lak-kurd wrote:
Emanoelkurdistani wrote:May I know your region brother: Eleshter, Nurabad, Hersín? To have an impression of your regional dialect :)

Dude, my parents are from Nurabad but I born and raised in koohdasht(Koiasht)


I see. I knew a fella from Nurabad (Dilfan). I got most of my information about (eastern) Lekí thru him. :)
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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: lak-kurd » Fri May 14, 2010 6:23 pm

Emanoelkurdistani wrote:
lak-kurd wrote:
kidyney (Leki: gudala), change (kurmanji: avaz, in old language is somthing intresting...if you see a genie (leki: Meloikat, Jen) and feel bad people sa that "Jen guaronia" means Jen's have made him to change),
flower (leki: gul), snow (leki: var), widow (kurmanji: biva...it's persian but I don't know about our original language), heart (lek: del), lie (leki: doru),
laugh (kurmanji: khanin), sleep (kurmanji: khaw), ram (leki: berin), bride (leki: bowii), summer (leki: tawson), buy (leki: kherin), fox (Leki: rowa), blue (leki: kaw),
gras (leki: giya), to itch (leki: Xuranen), font (leki: kani), pig (leki: veraz), run (leki: ramin, dowin), choose (leki: entekhab),
people (leki: xalgh. khak, mardem), as (kei: joor), yesterday (leki: dona), salt (leki: xwa), son (leki: kur), inside (leki: nom),
evening (leki: iwara), black (leki: si), village (leki: abadi),


Thanks. let me help you with correct spellings:

kidney : gurdale ------- change : gweranin

flower : gul ---------- snow : ver

bíve : widow ----------- heart : dil

lie : doru ------------- laugh : xenín

sleep : xew ------------ ram : berín

bride : bowí ------------ summer : tawson

buy : xirín ----------- fox : rowe

blue : kew ----------- grass : gíya

itch : xuranin ---------- font : kení

pig : viraz ----------- run : remín / dowín

choose : éntékhab --------- people : xelq / merdim

as : jur ----------- yesterday : done

salt : xwa ------------- son : kur

inside : nom ------------ evening : íware

black : sí --------------- abadí



By the way I think original Lekí words for "ram" is "wiren" (ورهَ ن) and "choose" is "wijhardin" (وژاردن).


if ram means destroy we say "rmenin"

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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: Emanoelkurdistani » Fri May 14, 2010 6:30 pm

lak-kurd wrote:
Emanoelkurdistani wrote:
lak-kurd wrote:
By the way I think original Lekí words for "ram" is "wiren" (ورهَ ن) and "choose" is "wijhardin" (وژاردن).


if ram means destroy we say "rmenin"


No bro. It is a somehow rural term.

In Persian they say "قوچ" or "گوسفند نر".

In Central (Soraní) and Northern (Kurmanjí) Kurdish "beran" (بهَ ران).

In Kirmashaní and Ílamí they say "weren" (وهَ رهَ ن)

and as far as I know in Lekí it is "wiren" (ورهَ ن).
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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: lak-kurd » Fri May 14, 2010 6:35 pm

you are right...vren:)

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Re: Sorani + Kurmanci Mix = New Kurdish!

PostAuthor: Emanoelkurdistani » Fri May 14, 2010 6:47 pm

lak-kurd wrote:you are right...vren:)


Yup, you got it. :)

Its correct spelling would be "viren".

As I can see you are getting a good command of writing in Latin alphabet. Just a little thing remains to be taken care of: whenever you feel there is no letters to be written (like in "vren", or "rmenin", etc) just put a single "i" there: viren, rimenin.

For example instead of "mrdn" or "mrden", or whatever, we should write "mirdin".
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